Overpair OPP against maniac

Snap call against this guy. I probably take the same flop and turn line as you, with the same thought-process.

Think you can raise bigger pre. $15 is my $1/$2 iso size IP vs two limpers. OOP vs two limpers and a maniac, I would go $18 or even 20. Taking it down pre is far from a disaster.

Do you know what the villain had in the previous hand? World of difference between stacking off with TP and 3rd pair.

If your read is that he is spewing, acting like a maniac, then it is an easy call. The problem is that I'm not sure that's the case here.

I'd probably go $20 pre from OOP w/ two limpers.

This really is read-dependent. Does he often spew by betting big into the PFRer? Does he always take initiative when checked to? Will he do this w/ worse than JJ?

Regardless, once I call the turn, I don't fold the river. I think you should have stuck with your plan to check/raise the flop.

Feels like an easy call against a mainiac.

I like the call, call, call line against a mainiac. Sure it's high variance and occaisonally he'll hit, but it's got to be EV positive with 2nd pair here.

C/R gives him an opp to get off the hook.

Also, when I think Mainiac I rarely think of them calling pre. Anything we can read into him calling from BB rather than raising?

I think you're a little ambitious x/raising this flop with JJ but its okay, depends on how maniac responds to counter-aggression. This is a tendency I watch for in these guys. What do they do when you play back? A lot of mine still call. So they're loose and aggressive and loose afterwards too. If thats the case then x/r AI OTF might be the best line. Call down is okay too but JJ is a little vulnerable.

Can size up a bit pre

Would prefer to just bet otf because 1/2 live is passive but it seems like you are purely trying to exploit Villiain being a maniac.

If that is the case, we shouldn't care that Villain went so big otf because they are a maniac and that's what they do.

As played, snapping this one off but imo deviating this much based on limited history seems like Fancy Play Syndrome.

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I think it's perfect timing to check/raise a maniac on flop when he bets so big.

He can have hands like fd, p+st8d, p+fd, and all sorts of hands like 7x,6x, 5x, 4x, 88-tt, 55, . He's bet/calling like all of his range.

What are you afraid of? sets? straights? twopairs? Sure he has those sometimes but I think he's willing to stack off light unless he's not a real maniac.

As for x/r size, 120-150 seems ok and jam most turns if he just calls. Including this actual turn. If he jams on top, we snap calling.

When villain bets so big, villain has very low fold equity on flop, meaning when we have value hands, we should take them to valuetown almost every single time.

Results

H calls, V never shows and MHIG

Grunch:

PRE - no idea what the raise size should be here, but limpers like to see flops, so if there's room to make it a little more, do that.

FLOP - good check. Not typically x/r'ing when V pots it. Actually kind of a scary board, so connected. V could have 2P+ already.

But if V is maniacal, I might raise. Yes, we fold out a lot of hands that might keep bluffing, or worse value, but if we just check-call we're going to be guessing on a lot of run-outs. Manaics are just variance-generation machines, and the only way to tamp down on the variance is to turn their aggression towards them.

TURN - interesting spot, in that the SPR is at the point we won't be able to fold on almost any river, and need to consider just getting stacks in now. Sort of feels like we're indifferent to calling or jamming.

RIVER - I think we have to call when we get here the way we did, but I'm not loving it.