UTG straddle, donk turn into nit
1/3 NLHE 8 handed
Table is a boring slow game overnight. We are up and have been winning with just the right mix of run good and some bluffs that got through. We've shown a couple light bluffs to juice the action and people are gunning for us now.
V1 - one of said people gunning for us. Loose passive with some aggro tendencies (might 4-bet A5s or KQo) pre, thinking break even mawg. Very sticky post. Misuses poker terms and logic to justify his actions in circuitous arguments. I 3-bet him with ATs earlier, he minclick 4-bet to 100 off a 320$ stack, I read it as weak and shoved, he folded saying he had KTs. "I have to have some 4-bet bluffs there for that sizing". 400$. SB.
V2 - asian nit plays like GG. limps 100% of his range and tries to trap post. the guy that limps pre, flop will be like 8-5-2r and he's suddenly putting in his stack (and he has AA). Gets paid off by morons that can't understand how their 99's aren't good there. Always buys in for 2-300 and hates playing a multi-street game post. Like might bet flop and then shove turn for 2x pot. 350$. MP.
V3 - Irrelevant fish.
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H straddles UTG and sees K♥ 4♥ covers all.
V2 limps MP, fish limps LP, V1 limps SB, we check.
Flop 20 - Q♥ J♥ 6♦
V1 check, H check, V2 bets 15, fish folds, V1 calls, H just calls
Turn 65 - K♦
V1 check, we donk 40, V2 calls, V1 pauses and gives several physical tells that his hand isn't very strong and then calls.
River 185 - 2♥
V1 check, we bet 100...
4 Replies
So river you bet 100, V2 ships on top or he folds or calls then V1 check/shove?
Hm... not sure why we check/call flop then donk turn. I'd understand if you had like TKhh or AT, 9T type hands.
If you're facing a huge raise(200+) on the turn are you calling/raising or folding?
You do realize nit has alot of sets/2pairs+ type hands right, maybe he'll raise/call off shove on top.
As for river, I might bet smaller or bigger. Nit might fold to this sizing with his whole range besides flushes. V1 might not raise with flushes vs this size.
If you are just begging for a call, bet like 60-70, they'll also raise with flushes, occasionally they do it with bluffs as well.
If the nit is willing to call you down light especially if you got aggro image, just bet huge 200+.
Grunch:
PRE - looks fine.
FLOP - looks fine.
TURN - I wouldn't donk. I'd just check and see what happens.
RIVER - as played to this point, I think the best play is an over-bet for around $250-$275. It looks like we picked up diamonds on the turn and are now trying to rep hearts.
Both V's can have strong hands here, so we want to size up for value, to target the strong hands they can have.
I like it as played vs. these players.
I like the flop check-call; QJx is going to hit a load of limp-call ranges and you can just quietly see a turn card OOP without bloating the pot and once in a while is checks around.
Interesting turn card. Nobody should have many Kx here but is V2 scared money once two calls go in on the flop and won't bet a Queen again? I probably look to check-call again more often than not, alternatively the bet looks fishy/FOS and with the draw you can stand up to a raise if someone puts you to the test. I don't hate it.
River is also interesting, you've repped a King (or AT) not a flush but now you have a flush as well. With V1 checking and V2 scared money you probably can't afford to risk the check-raise. But with your fishy/FOS turn bet I'd continue the weirdness and go big now.
