1/3/5 Tpgk facing donk pot
1/3/5 10 handed, 2nd time playing here, vibe is fishy aggro.
V1 ~ played 1 hand before, posted on this thread.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170/l...
V2 is MAWG, involves in lots of pots. Probably on fisher side. He bought in 1000 when he first sat down, everybody had a smaller stack.
V2 and V1 has 1 HH together.
HH
Sb is the rock, V1 limps in Utg, Mp limps, V2 on the btn opens to 25, V1 calls, Mp calls.
Flop KJThh, checks to V2, V2 bets 75, V1 calls Mp calls.
Turn 5, V1 donk ships for 275, Mp folds, V2 tank call.
V2 shows KQ, V1 shows Q2hh, V1 gets there on river.
Hero is asian in his 30s, probably tag/nit depending on how you view it.
Effective stacks 500
Preflop
Rock is on bb, V1 limps in Utg+2, Hero opens to 20 with KQo, V2 calls in sb, V1 calls.
Pot 66
Flop K63r, V2 donks for 65, V1 calls fairly quickly? Hero calls
pot 261
Turn T
All checks to hero? We betting? how much?
Anybody raising flop?
Tbh V2 calling with me yet to act showed massive strength.
I probably raise if flop if it were headsup.
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Given the size of his donk and it being a dry board I'm basically never raising the flop (what bluffs will we have?) Maybe 54 suited.
If I'm going to raise I'd rather it be a hand that doesn't block them from having top pair like AA, 66 and 33.
Probably betting a 100-120 on the turn and likely checking back river. Unless they truly stations going to be tough to get 3 streets of value here vs hands you beat.
V2 calling with you to act shows strength assuming they know or care, you did say they were on the fishier side.
I'm usually betting $100 to $125, but I'm concerned with V2. He could so easily be hoping to check/raise expecting V1 to bet (or you to). The donk on the flop is scary into two players, especially w/ one being a tight PFR. If it were V1, I wouldn't be as concerned.
In game I probably check and see a river.
Okay I had monster under the bed syndrome in game. Pot controlled the turn.
Turn all check
pot 261
River K
They both check to hero???? In game I somehow still fear slowplay boats. Yes, we are 100% betting this river.
Sizing? If we get check/jammed, we folding????
You would think one of them has to have a Kx right looking at the flop action. But they both check the turn and river which is interesting.
Turn can go either way. The large sizing and call on flop makes me lean check back.
Not raising flop when someone donks for full pot and gets a call in front of us.
Could go either way with betting or checking back turn. If betting, probably going around 1/2 pot, maybe a tad less, with plans to fold to a raise.
Reasoning for possibly checking back is that it looks like everyone has a K here, or someone maybe has 54. If we come out and bet large, we're mostly folding out worse Kx and draws. We're getting called (or raised) by trapping KT or some other 2P/set combo, and maybe worse Kx that just can't let go yet.
But if we check back, there's a reasonable chance one or the other stabs on a river brick with worse, and we get another street of value. Whereas if we bet, get called, and then donked into on the river, it's pretty gross. If we check back, and action checks to us again, we can feel pretty safe betting for value.
No strong preference one way or the other, when the situation is odd, as it is here. Playing passively seems okay in this spot.
Okay I had monster under the bed syndrome in game. Pot controlled the turn. Turn all checkpot 261River KThey both check to hero???? In game I somehow still fear slowplay boats. Yes, we are 100% betting this river. Sizing? If we get check/jammed, we folding????You would think one of them has to have a Kx right looking at the flop action. But they both check the turn and riv
Calm your mind.
One likely has worse Kx, probably really bad Kx, like K2, and the other one likely has a busted draw, or maybe some counterfeited 2P, like 63. It's possible one or the other slow played some big PP pre, had a mini-spaz on the flop, then decided to shut it down, and now might believe they're actually best.
Just bet large for value, to target the Kx and any showdown value V may have. I'd probably bet 2/3 to full pot. It will be hard for showdown value or better to fold, because we're supposed to have a ton of bluffs here.
It's so unlikely we get check-raised here, when we checked back turn. Any boats would likely come out and bet for value. Whether or not we'd fold to a check-raise really depends on the raise size and our reads. But it would be very hard for me to fold to a raise, as played, especially if I think V is capable of trapping / spazzing with worse.
Bet $100 now.
Spoiler
In game hero bet only 125$
V2 snap folds???He donked pot flop then folds river????
V1 tank call and mucks.
After the game I feel I miss out alot of value either on river or turn. I could've betted some on turn or bet alot bigger(near pot) on river.
If anyone has a Kx, they are calling river for pot size. If they have a pair, they might bluff catch.
I def. Bet turn here ~ 90
