River sizing with set
1/3 9 handed
Villain is somewhat fishy on the passive side but overvalues hands and spews off stacks.
Hero tight image?
HH1
Straddle, Utg+1 limps, Mp limps, V in HJ limps, Btn(nit) opens to 45, Sb calls, Mp calls, V 3bets to 245, btn calls.
Flop T82r V bets 250, Btn calls
Turn V ships 650+ Btn snap calls w/KK, V shows JJ???
V lost like 1100+ w/JJ????
HH2
V straddles, +1 limps, Hero in btn opens to 25, V calls, +1 calls
Flop AJ4r V checks +1 checks, H bets 25, V calls
Turn 5 xx
River 7 xx V shows KQs, H mucks
HH3
H opens to 10 in Co, V in bb calls
Flop q94hh, v checks, H bets 10
Turn 4 xx
River 7 xx V shows ATo, H shows AThh chop chop
Actual hand
Effective 500, V had over 2k stacks before now only down to 500. Might be tilting?
V straddles for 6, H in btn opens to 20 w/66, V calls.
Pot 44
Flop 864dd, V checks H bets 20, V calls
Pot 84
Turn 9, V checks H bets 80, V calls
Pot 244
River K, V checks Hero???
V has like 400ish left
5 Replies
Doesn't look like this V bets postflop unless they have something, and they don't appear to assess relative value well. They may call postflop if on a draw? Looks like they whiffed, on diamonds, on the straight draw, and they probably would've bet the King if it helped them.
So I'm not sure it matters what you bet here. On the small chance they're aggro enough to try x-raising a K, I guess bet something small like 50-60?
HH1:
V probably thinks this is just a cooler. Had an overpair on a low rainbow board and got it in with JJ. Overvalued the hand but not that crazy I think since KK will be 4! pretty often. Still, what's calling that called a 3! and the flop bet? meh.
HH2:
You bet 1/3 pot and V had a gutter to the nuts. Then you gave up.
HH3:
V liked his A and you gave up.
I don't think this history is evidence of him overvaluing hands that much.
OTTH:
I like how you played this so far. If the board wasn't so connected, I would have overbet the Turn since V will probably pay a lot for their flush draws. But betting pot seems good since there's a decent chance they raise their made straights at that point. Could even bet a little less to recap them, just in case they are playing SUPER passive.
There's probably not a bad bet size OTR. Could bet tiny to get called by any nonbelieving piece of it. Could bet pretty big to get called by a K. Could even bet 200+ and contemplate folding if they jam. Most likely you're just getting a fold anyway.
I'm either/or preflop (anything other than an extremely nitty fold is fine, imo).
SPR is 11 and we have middle set on a drawy board against a guy who overvalues / doesn't like to fold. Even though we don't have the nuts, I'm fine playing for stacks against this guy, so that's what I attempt to do. Big bets on the flop and turn will enable a reasonable shove for the river. I think we're missing huge value by betting so small on the flop against this guy, plus it will make it difficult to play for stacks by the river; I pot it.
Fine with turn bet.
The fact we have so much of a bet left for the river is a travesty and all due to our flop sizing, imo. I might just go for the gusto against this guy and shove, but probably better just to bet small and hope to get paid off by a weak hand (which is likely what he has).
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I think you can size up a bit on the flop and overbet the turn to get stacks in easier by the river. If you go 25 on the flop, then you can bet 115 into 95 on the turn and 365 into 325 on the river, which is relatively geometric.
The real question is, what are you checking down that can't beat K-high in HH2???
I think you can size up a bit on the flop and overbet the turn to get stacks in easier by the river. If you go 25 on the flop, then you can bet 115 into 95 on the turn and 365 into 325 on the river, which is relatively geometric.
The real question is, what are you checking down that can't beat K-high in HH2???
I didn't know he was this loose until my hh vs him
It's not fun barreling randoms on Axx board
