A10s 3b multiway

Bet probably 90ish for value. If V2 check/raise we might or might not fold(depends on reads), but if V3 check/raise we are probably ain't going no where with such stack sizes.

Multiway, with a medium strength hand, I bet small, 1/3 of the pot on the flop.

H bets $100
Both Vs fold

I know this is a boring HH. But I don’t play in these kind of 3bet pots with A10s suited too often. I wasn’t sure if the three bet was correct or to what sizing. I wasn’t sure on the cbet sizing either. And then playing after the cbet, I thought could be tricky.

What to do if raised? I would probably fold. Assuming it was a shove raise. But what about a minclick? Would one of the Vs be building a pot to gii on the turn?

One of my leaks is not planning ahead. I had decided that if called and the turn was a non diamond I would shove. Is this correct? How should I play a turn diamond?

Ty in advance.

Yeh I'd bet like 80 - not really looking to give equity away and capping my range. The good thing is you're IP and V2 is very deep so he's not x/r without a very strong hand.

Build some ranges for your Vs. Then ask the questions again.

I’m not very good with building ranges. I think I’m more of a beluga whale theory player even though I didn’t know the term until just recently. But here it goes.

V2 raised pre, has being raising pre often and been playing any two cards. Calling a 3! Makes it more likely he is holding a playable hand. Broadway cards, small and medium pairs, Ax suited and sc.

V3 called the initial raise and ended the action by calling 3! For $53. Would he set mine here? It doesn’t make sense to me, but players don’t always play sensibly. His range PP, broadway cards, Axs.

On the flop Ah Qd 2d.
AK and AJ are both out there and are calling most likely. AQ and A2s will be raising. KJ and K10 might call a bet, if suite they will definitely call. Sets? AA not likely no 4 bet. QQ possible players at these stakes don’t always 4bet with QQs. 22s possible. sets will raise. A3-9s are out there. But how many bets and how much are they willing to call?

What should Hs Cbet be targeting? If I go to big pocket pairs 77-JJ will fold. Small ace may fold. Aces that beat me will call. Draws that could improve will call. Two pair and sets aren’t folding, neither are combo draws KJd K10d. Should H try and get AK AJ to fold?

If check raised on the flop. Vs holdings are going to be the sets and 2 pairs discussed earlier, combo draws. More hands that beat me in this scenario than I beat. Is this the correct way to consider folding?

If called , Vs will have AK AJ, flush and combo draws. I’m assuming inside straight draws will fold to a large bet here.

Shoving on a non diamond turn seems correct. I can protect my hand from draws. Put pressure on bigger Aces. Why about a diamond turn. Should I shut down? Call a reasonably sized River bet?

You don't need to "build ranges" on the flop - just bet and go from there. v2 will most likely play pretty straightforward given stacks - v3 we'd probably be calling off if he jams on us. The most common result of betting is we get 1 call, maybe check back the turn, and get to the river to make a decision. If I bet and v2 raises I'm probably folding - you could check but now we're in bluffcatching mode with a capped range and many turns/rivers that concern us.

Looks fine, I would have thought checking flop would also be fine with this medium strength hand, that being said it's a fairly wet board.

Grunch:

PRE - if we think V1 is going to be limp-re-raising a lot, to target V2, I could go either way with 3B'ing or just flatting here.

Like, if we flat, V1 limp-3B's, and V2 4B's, it's a pretty easy fold without having put a lot of money in. If we 3B and V1 just calls, we can't be sure he wasn't sandbagging a strong hand, planning to 3B, but called an audible when we 3B, and is happy to just see a flop with an under-repped hand.

I don't hate the 3B, but ATs is pretty marginal at best, against most opponents, even bad LAGs who are going to call too wide. With V3 calling the raise, it seems pretty likely we'll see a flop, and probably multi-way.

The sizing is meh. Think we get more folds if we go bigger, and it's more efficient if we go smaller, keeping more stack depth to maneuver post-flop. I might prefer making it just $45 or $50. When you raise to $65, you're forcing opponents to continue with stronger ranges.

FLOP - Ordinarily my default on ace-high flops as the PFR is to check back or bet big, but here, when it's multi-way, and it's a 3B pot, I think we could deviate and c-bet small, targeting worse AX and draws. Because we raised so huge pre, I would probably down-bet to around $50 here, with plans to fold to a raise, because this spot is just going to be so massively under-bluffed.

What hands are you targeting with this c-bet size? What worse hands call? What do you think their ranges are here, and what sort of hands will they be giving us?

If either opponent shows up with a better hand, this bet size is just torching. It's hard to get called by PP's like JJ and worse when there are two over-cards to those pairs on the board.

We're going to have all the AA, QQ, and AQ here. Our opponents aren't going to have a ton of A2. Maybe we fold out AJ at some frequency, but we can make that hand fold on a later street just by barreling off. We'd prefer AJ calls a small flop bet, and a turn barrel, then folds on a brick river.

ETA - alternatively, if we bet 1/4 pot, we'll get called by a lot of AX and some PP's that are just hoping we'll slow down and check brick turns. It's really hard for opponents to check-raise flop with worse hands being turned into bluffs.

check