1/3 facing donk
1/3 facing donk

1/3 facing donk

1/3 5 handed, table just started this is the very first hand.

Villain is mid aged indian.

Hero is asian guy in his 30s.

Hero is in UTG with AJ opens to 12.

Villain in Sb calls.

Pot 27
Flop T75
V donks 15
Hero?
Easy fold?
Raise?
Call?

25 May 2025 at 06:17 AM
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Assuming we're 100bb+ and given overs, nut backdoors and position I call, folding turn unimproved.


Opps forgot to mention
effective stacks 300


I would float flop planning to bluff on heart runouts or hopefully just hit top pair.

Almost said fold pre, especially readless at a new table, but then I noticed it was 5-handed, so you are basically opening HJ which is obviously standard.


Ok
Flop Hero calls

Pot 57
Turn 3
V bets 45, Hero calls

Pot 147
River J
V bets 100
Hero???


I am not bluffing river -- there isn't enough stack depth and he probably isn't folding two pair or a straight or whatever -- so I guess the question is call or fold.

First instinct was fold because he has a lot of flushes that bet small on flop and size up turn, but I think the sizing on the river is pretty weak and fish will show up in this spot with absolutely non-sensical stuff sometimes. Wouldn't be shocked if he was monkey betting something like KhTx or turning 5x or something like AQ into a bluff.

You could also potentially shove turn, which might be the best play when we float flop with no pair.


Stacks? This is a great hand to raise with and start a multi-street situation.


by elmcityboy m

I am not bluffing river -- there isn't enough stack depth and he probably isn't folding two pair or a straight or whatever -- so I guess the question is call or fold. First instinct was fold because he has a lot of flushes that bet small on flop and size up turn, but I think the sizing on the river is pretty weak and fish will show up in this spot with absolutely non-sensical s

Jam turn, call now. Agreeing with what elm wrote, but I might be jaundiced by the aggro, I-hate-money, MA Indian men in my pool. Offer to buy him a Chivas if he'll stay, lol.


I would limp in but that's my style in the HJ-.

I would fold the flop. We have nothing much going for us and have some RIO issues (such as A completing AT, J completing the OESD, etc.).

ETA: Even though we picked up the nut flush draw on the turn, it's a very meh call, imo. We have low IO on a 4-to-a-flush, we'll need a large bet called very often to make money, some of our outs could be dirty, etc.

ETA#2: River seems like a trivial fold. Very few triple barrel bluff into the raiser and every single one of the myriad of draws got there.

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H call, V shows 58


You have two overs and some backdoor draws. Seems like an easy call and evaluate.


Grunch:

How deep are we to start the hand?

PRE - my default open at 1/3 is 15. So, go bigger than 12.

FLOP - Probably not folding. Might occasionally raise, depending on what I think V is doing and why.

What sort of range are you giving V here, when he flats in the SB and donks for 1/2 pot? Middle-aged Indian guys aren't typically known for their wild bluffing, and this isn't the sizing most low-stakes rec-fish take when they donk with weak value or a draw.

With two overs and a couple backdoor draws, I probably just flat call the raise and see what he does on the turn. If we pick up equity and he bets again, I might raise then. If he checks, I probably check back, preparing to blast the river if he checks again. I don't want to bet and risk getting blown off our equity if he decides to go for check-raise.

My reasoning is that this type likes to limp in and see flops, and will donk with value. He could have 2P+ here, and doesn't mind getting stacks in on the flop. But a lot of turn cards could change his mind. He'll shut down on a lot of draw-completing cards or over-cards, opening the door for us to steal the pot.


by dangomango m

Ok
Flop Hero calls

Pot 57
Turn 3
V bets 45, Hero calls

Pot 147
River J
V bets 100
Hero???

TURN - if he bet small, I'd want to raise. Since he almost potted it, I could go either way. Still might raise, but now I'm starting to wonder if he hasn't already decided he's just going with his hand, and we need to fold.

RIVER - yuck. Think we need to fold now, as much as I hate to do it with TPTK. This is rarely going to be a bluff or worse for value.

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