Range Question 1/3 hand

Can't really answer without player reads.

Also, just tell us your hand rather than asking us to do a range construction for a very unique situation...which is a significant ask from a brand new forum member.

'brand new forum member' lol. like its a status symbol.

anyway to answer your question, at a typical loose passive table I'm squeezing 99+ and ATo/s+ KQo/s and maybe KJs QJs sometimes. Not calling the all in with less than QQ+ AKs.

I mean, I’d call off much lighter here as the sb flat with a thousand people behind really shouldn’t be a big hand

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preciate the answer. Is there any chance he's doing thatr shove with 99, 88 or like a5s?

Shove is kind of bizarre, because there is no way SB could expect a 3!. 3!s at 1/3 tend to be a very tight range. SBs image is important and OP's image is more important. It seem weird, but I would still probably call QQ+.

I don't really have a player read for you. 3rd session at that casino and like 7th hand in

Thanks for response. I've been very focused on a GTO approach to learning the game, it sounds like focusing on learning player reads during these live sessions would help a lot.

I know a station who would flat kk jj 88 in blinds vs me but he would 3bet vs others.

Also yesterday I saw a similar playout but it was the btn who back jammed for 350ish. BB squeeze folded AJ he said. Btn was a nit so his range is AK and maybe QQ+.

As for your specific hand it's villain dependent.

Yeah, the play doesn't really make sense, but some loose passive players will not 3! AA/KK or whatever. So it is very read dependent, and I don't think you can call light.

Unfortunately, in a hand with multiple limpers, including an overlimper who then back-raises, there is no reliable "T" here. Others can give you their opinions, but they'll just be exploitative guestimates. Which is why reads are pretty vital for such a unique situation.

My guess is that if you inputted this into an AI-based solver, it would respond with "Huh?"

Really need more information to give you useful answers. Most 1/3 players are going to raise more than 15 pf, so I'd put his range a little wider than typical. That said, a 3bet is going at best drive the SPR down to under 3. You want a hand you're willing to either stack off or fold on the flop. I'd want JJ+, AK to 3 bet against an unknown. As for the back raise, I'd call KK+. But as was said before, this is one step above guessing without any reads.

The tightest calling range would be KK+ and the loosest JJ+/AK.

The backshove from the SB doesn't make sense in that SB should not expect a 3!. Usually, 3! ranges are tight at 1/3, so it could be some passive player flatted with AA/KK and now thinks he is ahead of OP's range and that OP has a big hand he can't fold. However, it could be some kind of attempted steal or spaz.

I've seen late position backjams as light as KQo and 77 and as tight as AA. Most of the time it's weaker and seems to indicate some sort of spaz reaction for a player who would rather pot commit themselves preflop to avoid being outplayed postflop if they cant just come along for the 5BB's. It's like they instinctively realize flatting $65 with a hand like that is a bad play and they really dont want to just x/f the flop thinking they got bluffed by AK high, so in their twisted view they just get to realize their equity 100% of the time.

I've seen (what I assume are tilted with me) SB (with me, as H in BB) play 33 this way (more than one person). Seen more people than you'd expect randomly play 88 this way as SB.
JJ would be more standard than AA/KK, for 1-2 population, based on the first call but some people will have mostly AA/KK.

Even seen some tight looking players shove super wide here after you squeeze and HJ folds, if they decide you are squeezing too much.

It's all live randomness. As AF said, a solver will come up with an answer if you make it ... but it'll probably be super tight, assuming ranges from HJ and SB (and you) that don't match reality.

WTF you 3bet with in BB vs. a HJ open, you should know. A GTO chart of BB vs. HJ open is unlikely to be your range, even something like SB vs. MP would be unlikely to be close.
If you haven't seen a GTO preflop chart, feel free to find one instead of posting.

I 3 bet with JJ. Which I think is reasonable after the SB called, and there are limpers behind. If it's just fold to HJ and fold to me in BB, then it's a call 95% of the time with JJ.

I folded vs the all in.

I see now how it's kind of a read-dependent play.