Line with JJ IP
£1/£2/£5
Hero opens JcJd UTG £15 (£400)
BB calls (£250)
Straddle calls (£300)
Very early in the game there had been a lot of player straddling so was quite big for my stack size dropping to 80bb
only note I would make is the straddle had not folded a straddle yet to one of my raises
Flop QsQc6d (£46)
Checks through
On this board should I be just betting 1/3 pot quite often here?
Turn 2s (£46)
Straddle £25
Hero calls
I dont think there is any reason to do anything other than call here. The straddler had called ever raise on his straddle so far. He could be very wide here
River Ad (£96)
Straddle Checks
I dont see much value in can get here so think checking is best
If he bet river on most runouts I was going to call. I was slightly worried he would bet this river as it should be a bad card for him so betting it would seem strong however he checks
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I think there's some merit to betting small on the flop when you are last to act. You could induce a xr from a Q to better define ranges and/or get value from smaller PP.
But multiway it can't be terrible to check.
The rest of the hand plays itself. I'd call the turn, and I'd easily call anything less than 60 on the river. Might even call more. Wouldn't surprise me if we ran into some kind of Ax hand, that's life.
I'd 1/3 psb the flop. Very hard for either villain to hit this flop.
I think there's some merit to betting small on the flop when you are last to act. You could induce a xr from a Q to better define ranges and/or get value from smaller PP.But multiway it can't be terrible to check.The rest of the hand plays itself. I'd call the turn, and I'd easily call anything less than 60 on the river. Might even call more. Wouldn't surprise me if we ran into
Yeah I was willing to call a lot on most rivers would not have been thrilled if he bet this river tho
Yeah, the flop check is really the only misstep here. You’ve got Jacks full in a multiway pot on a super dry and favorable board — QsQc6d — and you’re in position. This is a spot where you should be betting pretty much always. You have a huge range advantage as the UTG opener, and nobody is going to believe you have a queen every time you bet. You’re not just betting for value here — you’re also setting up the rest of the hand and denying equity to random overcards or small pairs.
When you check back, you give free cards to hands that might fold to a bet and let others catch up. Plus, you’re making it harder to build the pot with your monster. Even something like 99 or TT might peel a small bet, and a loose straddler might even continue with worse. You miss a lot of value by letting it check through.
Turn play is fine. The straddle leads small, and you just call. Raising doesn’t accomplish much — you’re ahead of almost everything, but if you raise, you risk folding out worse hands and isolating yourself against better ones like AQ or even a slowplayed QQ (rare, but possible). Calling keeps worse hands in and maintains control of the pot.
River Ad is a little awkward. It’s a card that helps the straddler’s range more than yours — a lot of Ax hands could take this line — but when he checks, it’s usually a sign of weakness or pot control. Still, betting here doesn’t get called by much worse, and there’s some risk of running into a bigger full house or getting check-raised in an ugly spot. Checking back makes sense. You’ve got a great hand, you’ll win at showdown often, and there’s not much value left to go after.
Overall, flop is the only spot where you miss out. Rest of the hand plays itself.
Grunch:
FLOP - when the board pairs two high cards, and we're IP as the PFR, I think we could bet small, 1/3 pot or a little less. Checking back with JJ on QQ6 isn't terrible, though. It just means we're going to play our hand like a bluff catcher, which is fine, so long as we stay consistent in our logic and actions on later streets.
TURN - Calling seems pretty standard. But I also think we could raise here at some frequency, even for a small size, for value and equity denial. Our hand is probably best, but not invulnerable. If we make it 75 on the turn, we probably have a fair bit of fold equity, and cut down on the likelihood V will put us to a tough decision on the river.
RIVER - Interesting spot when V checks after leading turn. Conceivably he just ran into top pair with AX, but really doubtful he'd take this line with QX or better. I wonder if 77-TT would call a small bet at some frequency. Like, could we bet $25 here? Finding that thin value in spots like this can add a good bit to our win rate.
But otherwise, checking back seems pretty standard.
Yeah, the flop check is really the only misstep here. You've got Jacks full in a multiway pot on a super dry and favorable board - QsQc6d - and you're in position. This is a spot where you should be betting pretty much always. You have a huge range advantage as the UTG opener, and nobody is going to believe you have a queen every time you bet. You're not just betting for value
Good feedback appreciated
Grunch:FLOP - when the board pairs two high cards, and we're IP as the PFR, I think we could bet small, 1/3 pot or a little less. Checking back with JJ on QQ6 isn't terrible, though. It just means we're going to play our hand like a bluff catcher, which is fine, so long as we stay consistent in our logic and actions on later streets.TURN - Calling seems pretty standard. But I a
Cheers for advice