1/3 tptk vs spew aggrofish super deepstacks

Once again, I'd be careful about the way we label opponents based on a few showdowns. Also careful about assuming what our table image is. We can't look too tight based on that TT hand.

As for this hand:

PRE - For God's sake, raise bigger at 1/3 when the table is splashy and we're deep. At least make it a more dealer-friendly 15, and no one is going to call the cops if you just open to 20.

FLOP - I'd over bet. They're not folding worse KX or their flush draws, and maybe not any draw or any pair, as evidenced by that K3o hand. Just pot it, or even go 150% pot.

TURN - Are you thinking about bet-folding? If so, then just check. If not, then over-bet again. I'd absolutely bomb it here, like 2x pot. If one or the other has 5x, nice hand, good game.

You post the earlier hand histories as if they're going to give us some deep insight into our opponents' play, when they're mostly just clicking buttons. No way to figure out what they're doing when they don't even know. Just bet your hand for max value against random low-stakes rec-fish.

The number of combos of better hands our opponents could have is absolutely dwarfed by the number of worse hands they could have - and still call a big bet.

Ok we checked

Villain1 bets 75， V2 folds
Hero???

Seems like a pretty obvious call. If we're ahead we're way ahead, and if we're behind we're way behind.

For a second, I actually thought about check/raising (oldschool stackadonk) line, but if he calls, whether the river comes a blank or a flush or 4/9 we have no clue of his range.
And we have deepstacks too crazy to spew it off with only tptk. It this was 500 or less effective stacks I might play it like this.

Anyhow, I went into bluff catching mode call and planning on calling blank rivers.

As played
Turn 5♠
V2 checks, H checks, V1 bets 75, H calls.

Pot 249
River 2♠

bet he spews more vs 10% than x otr

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Bet the river.

Honestly, I think you're overthinking a lot of hands you post, and giving your opponents too much credit for being thinking players or making creative plays when they're mostly just low-stakes recs doing random $hlt and clicking buttons.

If it wasn't clear - I'd probably over-bet the turn after our flop c-bet gets called and the turn doesn't complete any draws, nor improve any hand that should get to the turn. Giving up the betting lead by checking is a mistake, and the action here illustrates why. He bets $75 into $99, when we could have bet $99 or more.

You might argue that V was bluffing, and he just folds turn if we barrel, so our check got us more value. But V2 already checked to us after calling the flop, and V1 is last to act. He doesn't have to bluff here, nor does he have to bet a worse hand for value. He could just check back with all his draws and weak value hands that just want to get to showdown.

If we check, and he checks back, we're letting two opponents see a free river, and we'll have no idea where we're at on a lot of run-outs. It's a pretty big blunder to check turn here.

But when V1 bets, he's either A) betting for value with a hand we probably beat, which probably would call if we just bet, for a larger size, or B) bluffing with a draw that would have called if we bet, because if it's a good enough draw to semi-bluff and risk getting check-raised, it's good enough to call a big turn barrel, or C) betting a better hand for value, but for some reason using this 3/4 pot sizing instead of going bigger, and we'll never know until the river, because his 3/4 pot bet doesn't tell us as much about his hand strength as calling an over-bet would.

Checking turn to induce also creates problems for the river. We check turn, he bets, we call, and then on the river, we do...what? Donk? What cards are we donking, and why? If we check-call turn and check river, he's going to be checking back a lot, and we lose a street of value.

You might ask what range we're targeting if we just go bet-bet-bet with large sizing. My answer is - it doesn't really matter here, at these stakes. We're the PFR with two callers. It's a King-high two-tone flop where the best hand either opponent can have is some weird 2P or possibly a set, but will also have a ton of worse 1P hands and draws that aren't folding to a large c-bet, when we could just be monkey c-betting with our entire range.

This board favors our range as the pre-flop raiser, so we get to c-bet it at near 100% frequency. We could c-bet small, and size up on the turn. That would be a more theoretically correct line.

But at low stakes, against these two V's - a tilted fish behind us and a trappy player in front of us - we don't really need to worry about getting raised on the flop or bluffed off our hand on a later street. V1 is going to start raising right away if he has us beat, and otherwise he'll float too wide. V2 is going to tell us if she has us beat, probably on the turn or river.

You'd make more money by betting small enough on the flop that they raise with their 2P+, or large enough that we get max value from their worse KX and draws. On the turn, you can size up or down depending on how the turn card changes the board texture. Like I said in my earlier post, I'd just over-bet the flop, and then absolutely bomb the turn when no draws complete.

C-betting 1/2 pot on the flop doesn't really accomplish anything. It's big enough that opponents won't feel compelled to raise with their thick value, but not big enough to get max value from their worse value and draws.

Yeah, maybe someone shows up with 5x, and we lose max value. But there are damned few combos of 5x that call pre and flop, especially if we c-bet larger. Meanwhile, there are tons of worse Kx and draw combos, before we even consider an opponent getting sticky with 2nd pair.

ETA - submersible is dead right, if we bet 10% pot, opponents are going to be more likely to raise rather than flat call and look stupid when we turn over the winner. If we check, they can just check back, and we have to show first, allowing them to muck without showing.

I'm not saying betting 10% pot is better than betting 2/3 pot or over-betting, but it's much better than checking. My preferred line would be to just go bet-bet-bet, with sizing that lets us jam for pot or less on the river, but if we check-call turn, a small river donk is going to be pretty confusing, and win us more money than checking, for sure.