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I would call here. I would be more likely to raise if he donked smaller. I still think this is a good spot though, so raising can’t be too bad.

What are the stack sizes?

Like to know the stack sizes as well. A donk bet of this size more likely means he has some sort of pair and wants you to fold your obvious AK. Easy call.

donk bets HU, even for pot, are rarely a sign of overwhelming strength. Usually a pair trying to 'find out where they're at'.

I would call, but given he called out of the BB and is betting pot OOP on a dry board I would proceed with caution

If he continues betting large on the turn and river, I'd have no issues folding unless we make 2P+

Bigger preflop, $20-$25

Flop: theory says 'call because larger sizing = polarized,' but population usually donks for pots otf regardless of their range so raising 3x is fine.

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I'll assume $300 deep.

SPR is about 10ish, which for me means I pretty much never want to commit stacks with just one pear. A flop raise starts putting stacks in play, so I'm not doing that. Folding to a single donk HU, even a large PSB one, seems a little nitty (even for me). So I just sigh call and play in position and see what happens.

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This is probably weak, and we see something like AT, or QJ, but let's not go nuts as yet with 1p.

Call.

Like GG, not really wanting to pile in stacks with one pair just yet. We've position, let's use it and just call for now. No real draws to be that afraid of, though my spidey sense is suspecting KJ, with an Ace showing up at some point.

Trying to think of any of my CO open range raising this bet. Maybe KK exactly? JJ? I guess 55 should, but I probably still wait until turn and see if young asian V is going to be as aggro as I'm expecting. A lot depends on stacks, as noted already.

yeah it was $350 deep but we'd both won some medium sized pots and max buyin is 300 and table just started

we opt to call, leaving about 300 behind effective

turn give Jh to give hh on the board

villian leads out for 75

I'd honestly consider a nitty fold on the turn. It's not impossible for overpears to be tarping postflop. All large sets are easily in play. Pretty much every two pear broadway got there. AK is in play. So we're hoping he's going nutso against a board that can smash us with KQ (not impossible, but obviously we block some of these combos) or KJ/J9 (and most opponents don't cuz they don't want to be blown off their draw).

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Pre and flop are fine, but I might actually fold the turn. QT is there and QJ, weird AK, J9 (unlikely, but who knows?) all get there. If I had some read, I might call again and evaluate river. What vibes are you getting? Does he look gamble-y? How did he win those pots?

I also likely fold, absent prior observation that he's willing to keep leading big with no better than a pair. I was honestly already concerned on the flop as at least in my pool, fish donking for pot usually have vulnerable thick value - but agree with TPTK it's worth calling one street. The flop lead is a little weird given how dry the board was.

Second use of a big-size lead just smells like 2p. A nitty fold perhaps, but almost nobody is leading balanced here.

Seems like a pretty standard call.

Watch out for run-outs that would make J9 or KJ a straight, or make his worse Qx 2P.

Yeah, this is kind of a $hltty spot now. Think we can comfortably fold. Might show the Q just to needle him.

I am calling turn, planning on folding to a big river bet. I think there is still enough stuff that you beat (or chop with) here on the turn, but it is now a dicey spot and I don't blame anyone who folds.

Yeah, I'm taking this one off, too. He's not an OMC. Let's see if he fires another barrel.

Doubt seriously V has an OP or AK here. UTG1 limped pf, and was still to act after V in the BB. I don't see it. QJ, J9, JT, QT, 98, OTOH: yep, all those make sense, although a lot of Vs aren't betting big with merely a draw, and now things are starting to get chunky. Pot'll be 240 with a call, and like 225 or so behind. Seems awfully geometric to me.

We can rep AK with a turn jam now, but are most Vs going to fold their 2P+ to it? That they've gone big bet, big bet? Bit of wishful thinking, and I'd like to know they can lay it down first, before I light 300 bucks on fire.

I wonder if V has 98 now?

Is he piling in another large bet when the obvious draws (KJ/J9) now picked up some showdown value? Flop call is fine but I really don't love the turn situation. On the other hand he may just be piling money in with KQ having picked up an open ender. Look it'll be frustrating if you fold and he shows KQ, but you have all the AK so it'd be a pretty suicidal move without anything. I'd probably get out now.

There's less than a psb on the river left if we call on the turn. If our plan is to fold on the river getting 2:1 on a blank, we are better off folding on the turn. Even an Ace is could still leave us with a loser.

we opt to call on the turn

river comes 6h to complete the backdoor heart draw

villain leads out for 100, i have about 230 and he barely has me covered

i do not have a heart in my hole cards

I would have folded turn, but I'm not quite sure what your plan was calling turn, and then facing a small river bet when a relative blank came (asuming bd flush is a relatively small part of his range). If you think he was FoS before given you called, why are we not calling now?

Call river against the small size and hope to beat an overplayed KQ or KJ. If you lose, I would expect it to be against QT since most better value hands would want to jam river.

You can't bluff jam here and reasonably expect a better hand to fold. Probably more likely that he would call with a worse hand than fold a better one.

Well played on the turn call now call River.

I'd have folded turn, but since we're here, call now.

Not sure what I'm expecting to see from V. Some QT, QJ, JT. Some 98. Some LL spaz overvaluing Qx/Tx. 100 to call a pot of now 340, it kind of epitomizes the term "crying call." H needs 22.7%, and is good maybe 1/3rd of the time? Yay?

I thought of jam Turn, which definitely falls into the bluff jam bucket at that point. Do you think that gets through enough times at this level vs an unknown?