1-2: AA facing river raise
1-2: AA facing river raise

1-2: AA facing river raise

$500 eff

Hero opens $15 with AcAd UTG, CO & BTN call

Flop ($45): Kc7c3d
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn ($45): 3h
Hero bets $30, CO folds, BTN calls

River ($105): 8c
Hero bets $75, BTN raises to $200…

Isn’t he repping just 88? He wouldn’t check a flush draw or set on flop.

26 June 2025 at 02:48 PM
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Not the point but you need more than β€œit’s the standard open” to open to 7.5bbs. In the majority of cases, people are making a mistake when they open huge.

Flop check is fine but this a flop we can bet a decent ish frequency even OOP MW. AA does make a good check, but especially if we’re assuming general loose passive live players, betting has a lot of appeal.

Turn looks good.

River bet good. Probably just fold to the raise. He can have 88. Plenty live players are not betting all their flush draws on the flop so they can definitely have clubs. They could easily and probably not incorrectly slow play some flopped sets on this dry flop. They could be slow playing a 2. We block the most logical bluffs. It’s unlikely a K value owns itself here. Rivers are underbluffed. Post flop raises are underbluffed. Not a lot of arguments left for calling .


Fold. There are zero natural bluffs here and river raises are under-bluffed in general. He has to turn a hand like 9c9x into a bluff basically. It may seem like he has no value, but I see passive players check back flush draws IP a lot, especially on a bad board for their range. People make dumb traps with sets sometimes too.

I think the river bet is pretty thin for this sizing. BTN is unlikely to have KX when he checks back. I would prefer a block sizing (although then I would be much more likely to pay off a river raise).


Not sure why you're checking the flop - all the money is made when someone has Kx and you get 2-3 bets from them. I would say the only reason to check would be if they call insanely wide preflop and are very bluffy postflop which at 1/2 I doubt is true. Yeh I would fold the river - sure he only reps 3x or 88, but maybe he played a flush draw passively who knows. I just don't think at 1/2 the common mindset is hey we have a weak hand, he seems capped, lets bluff raise the river.


I disagree about the $15 raise being a problem. Seems fine in your typical game, we play tight ranges BECAUSE open sizes are so much larger than "theoretical" sizes. I think the "it's 7.5bb" stuff comes in when you are defending too wide because it's a 'standard raise' not when we do it ourselves with a hand that wants to raise.

I don't mind the flop check, but I would bet here. It's a somewhat dry, dynamic flop. You want to get value from clubs and Kx. Not necessarily likely to get stabbed and we're not going to x/r so you're missing out on value from hands you beat that will definitely call a bet.

Turn bet is fine, I might even size up.

River bet is good, and we should fold here. We've told them twice that we have a good hand and without reads that they are capable of betting worse for value or bluffing into strength this is only hands that beat us.

Live low stakes players call too wide and play draws too passively. This can definitely be clubs, 3x, 88 or any random 2p. Most likely clubs or a FH since most 1/2 players will only begrudingly call with a set or 2p on a flush completing card.


by DashOfSalt m

I disagree about the $15 raise being a problem. Seems fine in your typical game, we play tight ranges BECAUSE open sizes are so much larger than "theoretical" sizes. I think the "it's 7.5bb" stuff comes in when you are defending too wide because it's a 'standard raise' not when we do it ourselves with a hand that wants to raise.I don't mind the flop check, but I would bet here.

It is an enormous error, particularly from UTG. We’re supposed to be opening a very tight range (~11% of hands) when we open to 3bb, if we open to 7bb we either need to open way tighter than that or we’re self exploiting. The only semi reasonable thing is if we assume all 8 players yet to act are mega fish and we can open this size with premiums and a different size with the marginal parts of our range and they won’t do anything about it.

Look at things that mostly happen in 1/2 1/3 games, like huge open sizes. Recognize that 90%+ of players in these games aren’t +EV. Don’t copy the things you see in these games


If the pool is like typical LLS, they're passive and loose. Opening to 8 or 10 v 15 will only result in a gazillion calls, and few 3!s that H can 4! This hand doesn't play easier with 2-3 more Vs, at a higher or same SPR, when H is OOP. I see the point of needing to play a much tighter range with large opens though.

Anyway, bet flop, bet turn with the paired board (instead of pot controlling with OP) and OP is right, this isn't a set/boat. This is a flush 10/10. Paired board or not. Passive Vs, remember? They're still drawing with their T9s/JTs etc...and a lot of them aren't thinking about building a pot for when they hit, just that they haven't hit yet.

With the right kind of weak V, you could bluff with the Ac here. AP, though, you'd be offering 3:1, and unfortunately almost all of them will grudgingly call. Bet less on the river, like 45, then the <3X V raise makes your jam a lot closer to 2:1, and a lot of Vs will fold instead. So fold AP.


Well, you checked AA on the flop. From my experience, most low-limit players are happy to see a free card w/ a flush draw. W/o more info, this is a fold.


Bet the flop. Easy fold after the raise on the river.


Bet flop, bet turn. Check river with paired board and 3-flush. It is a good flop for your hand and range. I don't understand checking it.

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