1/3 hand with K4ss

I don't play much live so take my advice with a grain of salt. I think this is a fold preflop or a limp. Ap river call seems fine

Fold pre. I'm just never raising this type of hand from the HJ into multiple limpers but especially on a sticky table it's going to suck. Our top pair hands are terrible and our flushes are never the nuts.

If its the world's softest lineup I guess overlimp. But I'd fold at almost any table I ever sat at.

I'm calling the river.

Fold pre. You say range bet on the flop but 5 ways you should really only bet if you hit the flop.

Flop I would check. There is a reasonable chance your hand is no good and this gives you a deceptive top pair in your check back range. That said the bet is not bad as it does provide a bit of value and protection.

River is an easy call for that price.

Easy fold for me preflop in this position against two limpers at a sticky table with this junk hand. I would actually only possibly consider playing this hand on the button if limped to me and some of the limpers are real marks, but that's me.

Stack sizes are always key in NL. If you don't consider them important enough to list then you're really not approaching the game correctly, imo. I'll assume $300 = 100bb.

So I'll assume an SPR of 3.5, which is a real poor SPR for TPWK (and we shouldn't really ever be putting ourselves in that spot).

I don't mind a very small bet on the flop.

On the turn we're probably sigh committed against sticky opponents on a drawy board at this remaining stack size. Could argue for a shove. Not a fan of the small bet at this assumed SPR.

Sucky river spot. KQ and the main draw get there so at best we're calling to hope to chop albeit at decent odds. Meh.

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Range bet 5 ways is insane

Fold pf. The reason is that you're posting a hand that the board is great for.

Mostly agree with above.. pre, fold > overlimp > raise.

Check back the flop.

Once we luck out and get 2p, potentially bet bigger on the turn, especially AP where we look more like AK. Agree that stack size is getting very relevant though.

River donk is really weird... is KQ even in range here (read said he's "opening a lot of pots")? With sticky fish though, seems like this could be Q5, Q3, even K3 which we beat. Probably some weirdly played straights and sets too? Seems an easy call though, more than 23% of this is going to be worse 2p or random trash.

In late position facing three limps this seems a perfect spot to overlimp with a suited King. You said yourself this table routinely goes multiway following a big raise, so pumping the pot with a mediocre hand seems suboptimal.

Speaking of suboptimal, betting a weak top pair 5 ways seems pointless. There's an excellent chance someone else has a King...

...which is also the reason you just want to push hard on the turn. Depends on relevant stacks sizes, but go bigger or consider a jam if stack sizes dictate.

River depends on stack sizes but as a default I would just call here. You beat bluffs and beat a little bit of value as well.

I'm surprised so many are suggesting a check back on the flop.

You have (second-best) position, initiative, and top pair. A bet thins the field and gives you control of what happens on the turn. If you get check-raised on the dry flop, you can easily fold. You're often betting with the best hand.

Sure, the CO could screw up your plans, but he's regulated by three players to act behind him.

I'm just getting back into poker (and poker theory) after many years on the bench, but I'd like to understand the arguments for checking this flop five ways.

Preflop is silly. Multiway you could limp along if this is a game where people are calling station postflop, occasionally raise big as a bluff with some equity, or fold if people are generally playing rockish since KQ etc are gonna be out there.

Flop is not a range bet with 4 callers but I can support either check or small c-bet ($15 or $20) basically looking to get called wide by more than just better Ks

Yep fold pre

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It’s 5 ways, betting ranges are narrow and there is a reasonable chance someone has us beat. We can bet small and accomplish things like protection and thin value but when I see top pair no kicker 5 ways my first thoughts are which street of value we should go for and how close to showdown can we get?

Size up a bit more on turn as played. Yes, call river.

I agree with flop cbet, though it would be nice to know if a single spade for backdoor flush draw is present. If Hero has a range of janky suited Kings, hands like k2, k4, k6 can turn additional equity that allows for profitable semi-bluffs. Checking back k7-kj for more pot control is reasonable, as they will perform the worst when dominating.

Flop cbet sizing is also fine.

Some posters object to this flop being a "range bet" 5way, which is correct, Hero should frequently check, especially when Ax misses or underpair to the K, but that doesn't mean Hero shouldn't cbet when he hits top pair.

Grunch:

Don't assume we know why an opponent is doing what he's doing. Maybe he's "trying to realize his equity". Maybe he just thinks he's supposed to barrel off as the PFR.

Watch WHAT he does, and try to infer the WHY based on the context.

If the table is sticky vs a $20 open, then just fold K4s. Definitely don't open it to $15.

In most games, K4s is just an easy fold. In splashy games, it's a super-easy fold, even from the CO.

If you want to screw around with some up-and-down suited KX combo, do it with K6s, not K4s. At least K6s has the potential to cooler lower straights.

Don't range bet with weak top pairs in multi-way pots. If we bet and get called, we're almost never good. Our opponents will often have better top pairs. If we bet and get raised on K53rb, we're very rarely good, when our 4 kicker blocks the most obvious OESD bluff combos of 64s and 42s.

I would probably bet KQ or better, and just check worse KX. I might bet some other 1P combos for protection, like 55-TT.

Your c-bet size is too large against 4 opponents. I'd probably just bet $15-$20, or maybe $25 at most.

When you bet this size, and get not one but two callers, what sort of range are you giving your opponents? I'd be giving them a lot of KX combos that beat K4s.

This is becoming a weird spot, when we make 2P we really shouldn't have, and our opponents are mostly capped at worse KX. I think we can size up here, to target KX that just isn't ready to fold. I'd probably bet $95.

It's a weird spot because our opponents might get here with some combos of 54s / 43s that make worse 2P, and take this line. But if we get raised, I'd be somewhat concerned someone has A2s or 76s and drilled the ISSD. We'll be in the blender trying to figure out if we're getting raised by worse 2P or a straight.

How much do we trust our read? Against a guy who is opening lots of pots, I'm not sure how much KQ I'd be giving him, especially not with this river donk sizing. And I'm definitely not giving him some KX combo that was already 2P on an earlier street, unless it was 2P with the BD club draw.

I think I might click this back to $250, depending on the stack sizes and the suits of the cards on board, if they make it more likely he's got K3s than K5s. Definitely not just flat calling, and definitely not folding.

This looks like he's got KJ or something weird like K3cc or Q5cc that wants to make sure we don't check back but isn't sure how big to bet.