1/2/4: 50 straddles deep w/TPTK facing LAG donk OTF
1/2 Live (4 live straddle) 6 players – $200 effective. Suits not relevant in the hand.
Hero: EP, raises to $15 with AJ.
TAG and good player on the button calls, BB (very LAGgy player calls).
Pot $52. Flop 8 10 J.
LAG player bets $20.
Hero?
10 Replies
Please don't include results, OP, as they bias folks' advice. Let discussion go until it dies down, or at least one day, before revealing last action and results.
Consider folding AJ in EP & avoiding tricky situations. Suitedness always matters on the board in narrowing ranges on later streets.
As played, you could raise big & try to get some folds. The problem is that the villains ranges smash this board. Capped ranges likely don’t have AA, KK, AK - but they have paint, maybe 2Pair or a strong draw. No nine is folding.
Though folding now is probably the best play, I guess you call & see what happens behind you. Wouldn’t become attached as you likely have to improve to win & might improve in the wrong way.
Consider folding AJ in EP & avoiding tricky situations. Suitedness always matters on the board in narrowing ranges on later streets.As played, you could raise big & try to get some folds. The problem is that the villains ranges smash this board. Capped ranges likely don’t have AA, KK, AK - but they have paint, maybe 2Pair or a strong draw. No nine is folding.Though foldin
are you trolling? this advice makes no sense. open folding AJ 6 handed is nuts. and just giving up on TPTK to a less than 1/2 pot size bet OTF vs a lag is just as bad, even if players are behind.
call and fold if anyone behind you raises. pf standard
if nobody raises and the lag bets a brick card like a 2-6 on the turn id just shove at that point. id also shove a turn 8. a turn T is tricky id probably just call. on a turn 7, 9, Q i just give up. if the turn is K it depends how big the turn bet is.
are you trolling? this advice makes no sense. open folding AJ 6 handed is nuts. and just giving up on TPTK to a less than 1/2 pot size bet OTF vs a lag is just as bad, even if players are behind.
I suspect this is a bot or somehow just copy/pasting LLM garbage into the forum. Makes a lot more sense when viewed that way.
call and fold if anyone behind you raises. pf standard
if nobody raises and the lag bets a brick card like a 2-6 on the turn id just shove at that point. id also shove a turn 8. a turn T is tricky id probably just call. on a turn 7, 9, Q i just give up. if the turn is K it depends how big the turn bet is.
I said call & see what happens
Looks like that’s what you said
Am I really going to be persecuted by you on here. No problem dude, I’m trying to help & one turd won’t keep me from enjoying this experience. I’m learning all the time, just not from you.
I suspect this is a bot or somehow just copy/pasting LLM garbage into the forum. Makes a lot more sense when viewed that way.
No, it’s me & I’m thinking it thru.
I can handle the attacks if you feel it’s necessary, but opinions are like….
Wasting time with this is nonsense
Let people express opinions and you express yours. This is no war, but in real life, I’m a master of defense. Come at me
Grunch:
PRE - AJ is a pretty hand. It's also a trouble hand. I guess the raise is okay, but proceed cautiously.
FLOP - LAG just donked 40% pot multi-way, first to act. That's usually going to be a real hand. Maybe he's flopped the joint. Maybe he's just open-ended. We still have the solid player on the BTN behind us.
I probably wouldn't fold, but I wouldn't bash anyone who did. I think we could probably get away with min-clicking this. If the BTN calls, I think I'm done with it. If we get 3B, by either opponent, I'm almost certainly done with it.
Consider folding AJ in EP & avoiding tricky situations. Suitedness always matters on the board in narrowing ranges on later streets.As played, you could raise big & try to get some folds. The problem is that the villains ranges smash this board. Capped ranges likely don’t have AA, KK, AK - but they have paint, maybe 2Pair or a strong draw. No nine is folding.Though folding now
I'm not sure why we'd raise big here. Any raise is going to look very strong, and it would be pretty insane for someone to 3B without the nuts.
We don't know what hero's table image is. If I'm hero, and my opponents have seen my shenanigans, they'd know I could have Q9s here, or K9s, or JJ, TT, 88, JT, and even T8 if we're 6-handed.
A raise here would mostly just be intended to fold out the BTN, so we can get this HU and IP. If either opponent 3B's, it's just an LOL-fold. Raising big would just be torching when we can accomplish the same goal by raising small.
We have TPTK. It's a good hand, but nowhere near the nuts. A big raise would effectively be turning our hand into a bluff, and our hand is too strong for that. We just want to get the BTN to fold and charge V's draws a little more to continue.
