1/2: 99 vs aggrowhale

I am not sure if I would cold 4bet 99 from BB when Villain cold 3bet from SB.

As described by you, it sounds like Villain does not realise when to fold, I would not try to bluff them in this hand. Even more of a reason for me to not 4bet pre this hand.
We will get better spots than this against this Villain...

I don’t hate the 4bet pre but you have to have a plan. 99 is not often going to get boards where it gets to blast off for the rest post flop and get called by worse, even by someone who is sticky as described.

So what could the plan be? If they’re an aggro whale, who gets to the flop too wide even in 3bet and 4bet pots (which actually isn’t confirmed in description, it’s very possible this person tightens up in 4bet pot,) they are probably over bluffing post.

Check back flop. You want to give them rope to blast off, the SPR is low enough they likely get it all in with just a turn stab and river barrel. You’re going to be calling off on uncomfortable run outs, multiple overcards, diamonds getting there.

If you’re not confident they have enough bluffs that 99 gets to call down turn and river on uncomfortable runouts, then the 4bet is probably a mistake

Spray and pray.

think flop is too big and id check turn and call non ace river, maybe ace river depending how wide u think he is pre

pre likely too big too when i look at it. its worth pointing out pre is way too loose in theory but sure

I just can’t read this hand. I’d have to watch villain tank on the flop and decide:

1. Is villain contemplating raising me here and settled on a call. He has an 8 fold.

2. Is villain floating with a weak A4, K4 or being sticky with paint.

Also, the best hand you beat 77 hit on the turn.

I just don’t have confidence in being ahead, but I have showdown value. Trying to get to the river cheaply the rest of the way. Check

99 is way too ahead of his preflop range here most of the time.. if he has better, I will hear from him preflop itself

I’m not sure how you say we are “bluffing” him.. I’m value betting all the way

Yes they are super wide preflop even vs 4bets so that’s not the concern.

Postflop, we get the best possible board for our hand (no overcards) and we want to check behind and allow them to catch up? Sure, there’s a chance they may bluff turn if we check back but that’s not guaranteed. My question is more about the turn decision.

I like the 4bet pre with a large sizing v player type: it's a perfect reason for deviating from standard ranges. In respect of the sizing I believe you should be deciding how to respond to a shove. If we're calling go even larger than 3x; if folding go smaller around 2.2-2.5x.

Flop I believe you can go smaller to encourage calls from broadways as well as Ax.

As played on the turn, I'd shove. Tank call on flop suggest he doesn't have a flush draw. Tank could also be a reverse-tell with 8x, but, oh well, if it is, then goodbye chips.

Money goes skrrr skrrr

Yeah I shoved, he snaps with K8ss lol

It’s not the best possible flop for us because what are we hoping to get called by? The question is do they have more 66 55 33 22 AX that calls down for the rest, or more unmade hands that will bluff off the rest when we check ? And the answer is pretty obviously the latter.

FWIW , a huge mistake people make is focusing on a later street decision when the inflection point is earlier. And here the turn accentuates that point. Now that you’ve bet flop what are you possibly hoping to get called by that you beat if you continue betting? And now checking to bluff catch is less favorable because you folded many of his bluff candidates on the flop.