How bad we played vs whale?
1/3 10 handed
All asian home game, plays like 2/5
Loose splashy game.
V1 passive fish
v2 ~ huge megawhale unseen in other places. We stacked her, we only won 700ish from her, she lost 1k total, we had qq on j53d 7d A barreling 3streets, she had j6dd coldcalling 3bets of 215 preflop???
she just rebought for 1500
a few hands ago, we just got valueowned, trying to thin value her on river.
She overvalues hands check/min raising river with naked kc on q347ccc qc???
Effective 1500
V2 limps in Ep
Hero opens to A♠K♠ for 30 in mp
V1 calls in btn
Pot 94
Flop K♣7♠4♦
V2 checks
H cbets 50
V1 calls
V2 check raises to 100 I have no clue what this means, never seen her check/raise flop.
H calls
V1 calls
Pot 394
Turn 9♠
V2 bets 200
H calls
V1 folds
Pot 794
River Q♦
V2 checks???
H bets 250
Comments on all streets welcomed
9 Replies
Looks alright to me.
Flop: I would bet bigger myself vs a whale. I would want to go 90, 250, 450 here (if you get called all the way to the river). I don't hate 3betting to 300 vs the min-click check raise.
Turn: easy call. Sizing feels more like KT than a monster.
River: looks alright. I don't hate a bigger bet either.
I think your hand is much better on the turn than the river, so if you want to put more money in I'd look to do it then. Also can't be that bad to get V1 to fold a bit more.
Against anyone sane I'm not sure what you are trying to get calls from on the river, KJ/KT? Maybe it's fine here though.
Honestly might click the flop back, hoping to lose V1 and get the whale to make a mistake.
By the river, it's kind of a sneaky bad runout because the number of combos you are targeting for value goes down with the 9 and Q out there, plus a hand like 74 might be going into check-call mode. Going for thin value versus a huge station can't be bad though.
looks fine to me
I'd put the pressure on earlier (flop or that beautiful turn). As played, I don't like the bet on the river. I think we own ourselves again vs. two pair or JT, which she might have given the AQ hand (I assume that's the valueowned hand). I just don't see her folding better or calling w/ worse.
I think it looks good. I like river against this player.
Spoiler
Ok she snapped with KTo
I was thinking if we bet bigger on all streets, we might have gotten a lot more.
Now imagine we open to 40 or whatever preflop, pot would be slightly bigger.
Now imagine we cbet/3bet flop. This is crazy vs normal opponents but we already got a read on her river check/raise that she overvalues hand. Roll back 20 years ago, tptk was like the "nuts". Maybe if we played TPTK like the nuts we could've gotten all her money.
In game, I was too "scared" of sets/2pairs vs her minraise. The thought of her raising with tpnk didn't cross my mind at that time.
Yea, we made like 600 off her with TPTK which seems very good but I think we could've squeezed a lot more.
We might even have raised the turn with our bdfd.
When she check river, we were probably ahead right??? So river bet maybe was a bit tiny.
That's being pretty results oriented. I think you got about the max vs KT
Kinda feels like no one read the reads or HHs. This person cold-called a 3b with J6s and stacked off 300bbs with 2nd pair no kicker.
I'd prolly bet flop like 90, am indifferent on a flop 3b, am definitely piling chips OTT to make an easy shove, and am betting $500+ OTR.
If anyone feels my advice elsewhere hews too close to theory, they all come with a "unless your opponent is blackout drunk or barely knows the rules of poker" caveat (either explicitly or otherwise). This player is the exception I've been talking about.
