Suited Connectors
1/3 - 8-handed
Hero $500, UTG $620, LJ $550, HJ $800
UTG & LoJack seem like LAGS
HiJack is a NIT
UTG opens $20, LJ call, HJ call,
Hero is button with Ts9s
Hero ?
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Any option on the table really on the button. For 7x maybe slightly leaning fold but can't be much difference between options. There's a bit of stack depth which would point towards getting involved. If it was a 5x open, for 150-200BB I'd be playing this most of the time.
There's over 10% of your stack in the pot before it gets to you, would lean heavily to fold or raise with range.
Hand looks pretty but T high flushes aren't that great 4+ ways.
Can even 3bet this hand some of the time.
While calling might be losing, giving action on the BTN could even it out over the long term (assuming you keep playing with these clowns for a long time, and they remember you had T high).
squeeze that **** to 100, kill em all. Obv the 2 callers dont have ****, if utg 4bets GG. If anyone calls then smash the board or wave the white flag.
I lean to a fold because I hate non-~nutmaking hands multiway in small SPR pots. But never going to hate too much on attempting to see a relatively cheap flop in position. And also some arguments for a 3bet here. In the end, I would choose the path you are most comfortable navigating.
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squeeze that **** to 100, kill em all. Obv the 2 callers dont have ****, if utg 4bets GG. If anyone calls then smash the board or wave the white flag.
If you 3! and get called HU, I would not waive the white flag on flops you miss. Some of the flops you miss are good for JJ+/AK, which you should represent. It is mostly flops that look bad for you that hit you.
If the 20 raise is unusually large and signals a strong hand, I'm just flatting. Otherwise 3bet, and 3bet big.
This is a nice hand in a multiway pot even with the raise. I have position and a better than average chance of getting paid if I hit my hand. So, with great implied odds…
Hero calls $20, sb folds, bb ($450) comes along. Pot $101 with four other players.
Flop Qs8s7c
BB checks, UTG bets $60, LJ folds, HJ calls
Pot is now $221
Hero ?
Maybe shove the flop.
I'd probably shove the flop. Any other raise size doesn't leave us enough left to flex any FE.
GcluelessNLnoobG
Yeah shove
Pre: I'm OK with flat give position and a hand that flops well, assuming non agressive blinds.
Flop: Shove is good. We have good equity here with straight and flush draws; I think we are maginally ahead if UTG has a Q or over pair here, but if we get folds, and take down a $200 pot that's hardly terrible.
We have the supernut flop, while having nothing. Esp. with the call, shove seems kind of obvious. Hopefully nobody has NFD/Ks7s/Js7s and shrug calls.
We could try getting fancy and raising 180-260, and shoving all/most turns. I doubt it's better though. Calling seems bad, and raising small enough that you can make it a three street game is def. FPS.
The fact we flop so well and mostly want to shove and get folds is a lot of the reason I think preflop is worse than people say.
This is the kind of spot I call pre but probably should 3bet or fold. I would fold BB for this price.
Flop shove seems fine. We have 53% against exactly AQ/QQ/KK/AA so seems like a profitable spot.
Fine with the call pre vs this line-up w/ position. As played, just shove.
I think this is fold pf, but it is close. The issue as stated above is that you are 20:1 against getting 2 pair + on the flop. Sure you can get a draw, but you're not drawing to the nuts most of the time.
As played, it is a shove with the potential fold equity.
I fold pre for this sizing. RIO are bad MW
As most of you suggest, Hero shoves
BB folds, UTG calls, HJ folds
Turn Jc, River 3h
Hero wins with a straight as villain shows AA
Obviously, 3! would not have worked. In my experience, 20 is an unusual open size at 1/3. Some players raise larger though. Reasonable to be concerned it is not necessarily AA/KK, but usually 99+/AQ+. Seems like a lot of UTG's 7x open range is going to 4! or call the 3!. You are in OK shape playing T9s HU against AK/AQ, but in bad shape going to a flop against TT+.
Was 57% against AA and I wouldn't be thrilled about calling with AA.
Preflop call seems borderline. Risk flush over flush 4-way.