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1/3 - 8 handed - Hero $500
UTG $450
HiJack $350
Button $500

UTG opens $14, HJ raises $51, B raises $88
Hero in the SB with AKo

Hero ?

16 September 2025 at 11:58 AM
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Very strong configuration. Can't be folding all non-pair hands, but jamming all 16 combos of AK is probably throwing money away. To keep things simple I would jam AKs and fold AKo here. It's also a UTG open and it's more than 150BB deep, so pretty comfortable with a fold here


Snap fold?


Kind of depends on your villains' player types and yours. There are games where I'd raise, fold, and even flat, although I'm less-likely to flat from the SB. Usually if I flat from the SB it's to flat/raise the right player.

In your average game, just fold.


Easy spot to just rip it in man. Dead money everywhere, AKo plays great here. Flatting sucks out of position and folding is way too nitty. Jam and let ‘em sort it out.


by PennyFlipz m

Easy spot to just rip it in man. Dead money everywhere, AKo plays great here. Flatting sucks out of position and folding is way too nitty. Jam and let ‘em sort it out.

There's no dead money yet; all players are uncapped.

Absent any further information I'm jamming KK+/AKs here. Adding in some AKo and QQ if circumstances allow, but readless at 1/3 they're going in the bin


Trivial fold for me facing a cold 4bet readless. Especially since at the very least someone is likely sucking up some of our outs against someone else's big pear.

GcluelessNLnoobG


by PennyFlipz m

Easy spot to just rip it in man. Dead money everywhere

by moxterite m

There's no dead money yet; all players are uncapped.

This. And barring reads, a cold 4-bet is not only uncapped, but very high floored. Like maybe KK/AA, half the QQ and AKs combos, and at best 1/4 of the JJ and AKo combos.

Pretty easy fold without huge reads, imo.

ETA: Against a generic UTG open range of 88+/AJ+, a cold 3-bet range of JJ+,AQs,AK, and a cold 4 bet range as given above, we have only 13.5% equity. And much of that comes from the bottom of UTG's range, which isn't continuing.


Your default at low stakes for 4 bets should be AA/KK, and only adjust that based on behavior. So unless we've seen something that suggest differently, this is a fold, and even more so with 3 uncapped players in. FWIW I also fold AKs here too.

As for people who cry "But we haz blockers", that doesn't really matter if their range only has hands that we have blockers for.


I folded & would have folded if it was suited as well - it’s still a drawing hand that will only hit the flop 32% of the time.

Seems to be in line with most people’s thinking here. I’m happy to shove AK in many situations, but not this one.

Everyone else folded to the 4Bet & V mucked, so I don’t know, but I think I need to add some 4Bet bluffs to my strategy.


I snap fold here.


I think I need to add some 4Bet bluffs to my strategy.

Very few live low-stakes Vs have a 3-bet/fold range, so I'd be super careful with this one. I'd need some extreme reads before I'd try it, and it probably wouldn't be in this hand where the open was UTG and the 3-bet was from the HJ.


What's with the bizarre sizing? Like a minclick 4! that's exact to the dollar? Some weird rake minimizing thing? Who does that live? Reminds me of the Dilbert cartoon, where he gives the waitress something like 13.08 on a 7.83 check, to "make her life easier." Poor dealer...

Anyway, in my games, cute 4!s like this are usually AA, with some KK. So yeah, fold.


by FreeCard m

but I think I need to add some 4Bet bluffs to my strategy.

At these stack sizes (i.e. where we are not very deep) and where people are pretty much committing themselves with a 3bet / very few have a 3bet/fold range, this is a horrible idea, imo.

I'm fairly certain I've 4bet bluffed exactly 0 times in my 6634 hours of live 1/3 NL (I know, big surprise). And even if I somehow passed up on like a handful of profitable opportunities to do so in that time, it would literally have no affect on my overall bottom line.

GcluelessNLnoobG


Unless specific information player / table reads it’s a pretty easy laydown.


by gobbledygeek m

I'm fairly certain I've 4bet bluffed exactly 0 times in my 6634 hours of live 1/3 NL (I know, big surprise).

Sounds like it would work if you tried it.


by marchron m

Sounds like it would work if you tried it.

4bet bluffing at these stack sizes (<< 200bb) is a poor idea, imo.

4bet bluffing at my starting stack size of 66bb would be insane.

Gno,imoG

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