$2/$3 99 Mulitway OOP

Squeeze preflop????

4wp you're donking 99??
I usually don't like donking such weak hand unless there is 1 or more huge fishes that I'd like to get value from.
In mwp, let's try to play 2pairs+/combodraws/nfd and keep the pot small with marginal hands(any 1 pair hand is a marginal hand in mwp imho).
So flop probably check/evaluate.

Turn the big bet is overreping your hand imho.
Villain has all the fd/st8d, overpairs, and maybe some slowplayed sets on flop.
By betting so big on turn, not sure if you'll get called by worse. Alot of players will fold draws on paired card.
Turn maybe check/fold is ok?

As for river I don't see Villain have any air maybe besides like naked 9T st8draw which might not even be in his range.
I guess we can bet river ourselves, and pray villain folds his overpairs. I mean when you lead out and bet this big on turn, you're repping nutted hands like boats/flushes. But then again, I think we overplayed it way back on the flop

Oh as played on the river, fold>shove>call

Calling is the worse option. It's the negative ev move.

Then shove is ok option I guess, villain might or might not call shove with flushes. Unless villain is very fishy, most can find a fold to a shove, but it's a risky move. Villain does have some slowplayed boats but maybe more flushes since flop was so wet he probably should've raised. But even then villain might have hard time folding nut flush or any flushes.

So folding is probably best

Not raising pre-flop from BB, call is good.

I’m not solver approved but I’m check-raising this flop probably pot-sized. Arriving on the flop without overcards & from the capped action, nobody has a bigger pocket pair. Applying maximum pressure.

If it checks thru, probably donking pot-sized on the turn. I’m highly aggressive until someone plays back at me.

As played…

Don’t think V had a club draw unless it was exactly Ac8c - but calling that big turn bet could easily be A4. I think you only need to be ahead 25% of the time to make this call, but it looks like you’re beat. Can’t see raising.

You made the decision even more difficult because you invited a bluff with the river check. Your words V is aggressive player in position. So, your read = does V do this with A8o or worse? Would V have bet more on a bluff?

The Villain raised preflop. His range is not capped.

The reason to call preflop is to set mine. If one or both limpers call, hero has great implied odds at 166BB deep. It’s hard to get three folds even on this flop. Preflop raiser is uncapped and can have TT+. Callers have 87, 56, 44, 88, and 77 in their range. You’re way ahead, way behind. You now want to get to showdown cheap. Donk on the flop is a mistake 4 way.

Definitely not way ahead way behind. I would start with a check and see what develops.

Few different ideas. Cheers for the feedback.

In the end I called and Villain showed K2cc for the flush.

I think this is an ~ok setmining spot since it will most likely go 5ways, so I'm cool with just flatting preflop.

Prolly close on the flop? I think we could check and make a nitty fold this multiway. But there is merit to betting for protection too. The only problem is that it sounds like we don't really want to end up HU OOP deep to V1, and a bet could do that.

I mean, I get our turn reasoning. But when he calls, exactly how much are we loving life? We're building a huge pot OOP, and wouldn't he get more aggro with overs + flush draw / straight draw? When he calls the turn, I think his hands quickly start moving towards ones that have us drawing to 2 outs.

This is one of the nut low rivers as pretty much every draw gets there, plus it's also possible we were behind the whole way. There are good situations to bluffcatch and there are bad situations to bluffcatch; this falls into the latter for me. Like if the 2d falls on the river then we probably have a fine check/bluffcatch, but what bluffs do we beat with the 6c?

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Thanks gobbledygeek. I'm rarely here on the forums but I remember you over the years and have always enjoyed your thoughts and advice on hands.

And to answer you and FreeCard. I don't think we beat any of his bluffs and I do think he calls worse than A8o, specifically other eights and probably quite a lot of eights. Still probably not worth calling though.

Grunch:

PRE - I would have 3B with 99 in the BB.

I don't understand why you think someone is going to 4B. You're in the BB and putting in a 3B when you could just call closing the action. Your 3B should be a "real" hand. Meanwhile, you've got an EP limp (weak), a dead-money post by MP who checks (weak), a smallish raise from the CO (weak, probably a wide range), and a cold flat from the SB (weak).

If someone does 4B you, it's an easy fold. Better to 3B and either take it down or possibly get it heads up than to take 99 five ways, 2nd to act.

FLOP - This bet makes no sense. Neither does your explanation.

First, anyone can have anything here, including 2P, sets, straights, and over-pairs to our 99. No one is folding a good draw to a 1/2 pot donk. If you actually had a thick value hand that needed to protect against a draw, you'd pot it, or over-bet, not bet 1/2 pot. This bet looks fishy AF.

Just check and see what happens. There's no reason to bet.

TURN - This bet also doesn't make much if any sense.

Yeah, we beat 87, but as you said, 87 probably raises flop. We're not folding out any of CO's over-pairs that raised pre and called flop. And any of our value hands that wanted to donk flop have been downgraded.

Again, there's no reason to bet here. Just check and see what happens.

RIVER - As played to this point, I'm not sure what a triple barrel would be repping, other than a flush draw that got there, or maybe T9. I suppose it's nice double-blocking T9, but it would be better to have the 9c in our hand.

I suppose there's some theoretical support for a low-frequency triple-barrel bluff with an air-ball or maybe 99 no club, but I don't think anything less than a huge over-bet gets through here.

As played, when we check (finally!), and he bets 1/2 pot, I don't know what to do, because I'd never get here the way you did. I'd expect him to check back with a lot of his better hands that aren't flushes. The only non-flush hand I definitely would NOT check back in his spot is AcAx.

Never in a bazillion gillion years would I put him on 66. Don't know why you think that may be in his range.

Seems like a fairly straightforward fold.