1/3 OESD and FD -$550 eff
So villain 1 is loose pre, sb is a complete fish but short.
500 eff with villain 1, villain 2 has like 100 ish to start hand
Villian 1 opens to $6 - his min opens are never premiums. Could be any random suited hand, maybe best hand he has is 66 and A7s. villian 2 in sb has every hand there is calls,and i flat 35dd in bb.
pot -$18
flop 24Qdd
sb donks $35, i raise to $100, and villian calls $100, and sb calls off stack.
main - $298
side - $10
turn 9x (double fd)
hero has about $380 left..?
villain could have a higher diamond draw, which will likely fold to a jam. Or he can have some random 2p or set that is never folding. I personally think xf or jam are my only 2 options. Unless villain bets tiny which i doubt ever happens with these stack sizes. thereβs a small chance he will xb too. Not sure whatβs best here.
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you are seriously thinking about bluffing a $10 side pot?
Complicating matters, you're basically betting into a dry side pot. The donkfish SB could have you both scooped.
I check and hope for a checkbehind.
V raised pre, then calls flop when SB donks and you raise enough to put SB all in? That's unusual.
Not sure why you're limiting his range to higher flush draws, 2P and sets. Maybe Q9s makes sense at some frequency, but otherwise, he shouldn't show up here with 2P or a set when he just flats the flop.
Higher flush draws are possible, maybe, but how often is he going to call your raise over the SB's donk with just a draw? If the SB calls, he not only has to beat you, he can't push SB out of the pot.
I'd be giving him some over-pairs, maybe QX, especially AQ/KQ, maybe QXdd type hands. Maybe A2dd or A4dd depending on which cards on board are diamonds.
You can jam to push him out and improve your equity. That seems logical enough. And could be credible if you're trying to rep flopped sets of 44 / 22, or even just 42 or some Q4s or Q2s combo.
Just not sure he's folding enough of his range after he calls the flop raise. I'm not sure I'd be quick to fold any QXdd combos here, or AQ/KQ, and certainly not anything better.
Yes, I understand you don't think he ever has over-pairs here, but...NEVER? What position is he in? Is it possible he opened for a small size hoping someone would 3B him? I've done that in EP when my larger opens aren't getting any action. I've also done it in LP when action folds to me and I don't think my usual large open size is going to get action, because the table is playing nitty, or whatever.
In the future, it's helpful if you post the positions, and specify which of the cards on board are which suits.
Logically, if you were to jam and be okay with V calling, I'd think we could check-call, even if V jams. Even if V checks back, we can either make our hand on the river and bet for value, or make a delayed double-barrel bluff on some bricks.
For this price and closing the action and with the fish in the hand, I'm not going to hate on preflop.
Flop raise seems meh to me? Dude has 2x the pot for 1/3rd his stack so he's never folding, so we have no FE. So I think we're just better off hoping the other guy puts in some deadish money behind us while we try to hit our hand. What exactly are we trying to accomplish with the raise? I mean, yeah, we're a slight fave against Qx but it seems there's more EV in getting some dead money in the pot, imo.
Villain calling the raise should be setting off alarm bells. Jamming doesn't make a heckuva lotta sense into a basically $0 sidepot because even if we fold out his higher flush draw we still have 5 high and have to hit for the main pot; and meanwhile punting into better seems meh just in an attempt to cleanup some outs. Think it's just a check and evaluate and most likely calling reasonable bets (as it is unlikely he is betting a flush draw into a protected pot).
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Check/fold turnβ¦the flop action went 2x pot donk and a raise in front of the preflop raiser and he still called. I donβt think you have any fold equity on the turn and you would be betting into a dry side pot. Check and hope to see a free river
V called 5.5x the pot cold on the flop, I wouldn’t think we have much fold equity on the turn. Check and try to realize.