2/5: AKo facing cold 4b pre
Whale ($2k) opens $20 UTG, Hero (UTG1, $2k) 3b $60, folds back to mega nit MAWG on BTN ($600) who cold 4bets to $150, folds back to us..
Jam, call, fold?
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Turbo Fold.
If he's a mega nit, the only question about his range is how much we discount KK from AA/KK.
Snap fold vs mega nit
Fold.
Of course everyone will say fold, but this is enlightening. I’m always looking for that ‘card dead’ move when my image has become a rock. If light 4Bets can fold out AK & QQ, I need to be using this exploit.
When catching some hands, my image becomes loose aggressive and I crush. But when the cards cause me to be patient, I often flounder. Finally get a hand, everyone folds & the rake begins to catch-up with me.
I have got to find spots to use my tight image. Anyone have suggestions for how best to use my fold equity? Convinced that you cannot win without getting a couple of bluffs thru.
Also, if you kind people could help me with ‘passive tilt’ where I lose half my stack and suddenly find myself playing cautiously. How do you keep up the aggression when running bad?
I’ve mostly mastered the patience as I’ve experienced playing for seven hours and the best hand I get is AQo. Don’t lose much. But if I could redline a little when card dead, I might never lose.
Any advice &/or criticism appreciated. I’m here, because I take this stuff seriously and think poker all day long. Not comparing myself to anyone, just trying to ‘do better’. Thanks
Step 1, Free, to getting your hypothetical light 4! through, is to be viewed as a meganit. Which comes with its own -EV behaviors.
Personally, I don't like light 4! at LLS. (Lightish 3!s OTOH, with blockers and postflop playability are completely different.) The stereotypical population's tendencies are to be passive, sticky, and often loose. That's why they limp a bunch, and only sometimes raise, and often overcall our opens. When they re-raise, the vast majority of the time, they've something good. They're not folding and their range kills ours. We're just value-cutting ourselves by making the light 4!
Polarizing a 3! range (assuming you even need to. Are they mostly folding to your value 3!s?) is a much better idea for broadening your perceived range.
Polarizing a 3! range (assuming you even need to. Are they mostly folding to your value 3!s?) is a much better idea for broadening your perceived range.
Thanks, I like this advice. I’ve need to pick a situation and 3bet light once in awhile when my image is leaning tight. Only problem is in some of my games a 3bet to $50 will end up with three callers. Should I bet bigger? Typical open is $15.
At the same time, if someone 4Bets to $150, I’ve very rarely seen it called. I know that they only call with very strong hands, but they don’t have those have those hands often. I don’t want to give up on this thought completely, but you have strong advice. Thanks
I’ve got to learn to win with nothing and I just can’t figure it out.
The purpose of 3 betting or 4 betting light is that you are taking advantage of someone raising or 3 betting light. At low stakes, it is very rare to run into someone doing it. On top of it, you need to find someone who is paying attention to you to notice that you aren't playing many hands to point your range is super tight. Most villains just stick you in the category, "not important" which means they aren't sure you are a nit or just not getting cards.
Most low stakes players then overdue it. At a table with 30 hands per hour, you'll get AA about every 7-8 hours of average. Keep in mind that the majority of the time with even QQ+, no one will have raised in front of you. If you are playing 30 hours a week, you're going to do this 1-2 twice that week. Most people end up deciding to do this far more frequently, which turns their image from mega nit to maniac.
I have got to find spots to use my tight image. Anyone have suggestions for how best to use my fold equity? Convinced that you cannot win without getting a couple of bluffs thru.
Barreling multiple streets (more often) even if you don't hit the flop is generally my suggestion. If you have a tight image, people are more likely to play FOF against you.
Only problem is in some of my games a 3bet to $50 will end up with three callers. Should I bet bigger? Typical open is $15.
If your 3b gets multiple callers on a regular basis, you don't have a tight image problem 😀