Standard flush mine or fold pre?
1/3 NLHE 9 handed
Game is quite loose passive. Most flops going 4-5 ways. People are opening 10-15$ with hands like 98o and A5o. V is the only other competent player at the table. He tries to play level 2 and sometimes level 3 but it usually goes quite sideways for him and he'll end up making weird folds. He has a profitable weak-tight game but isn't afraid to put the money in when he thinks he's ahead.
HH w/ V - Fish who's tilted has been opening 40 every hand opens 40 UTG, folds to V in CO who calls 40, I see KJo OTB and pop it to 200, fish folds, V shows AKo and folds.
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BTN (150$) straddles 6, SB (covers us), BB (covers us), MP (covers us) limp, H (490$) sees A♦ 8♦ and limps LJ, V (covers us) to 30 in CO, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP folds, H calls, 5-ways 4th to act SRP.
Flop 150 - K♦ K♠ 4♦
Check check check check, V bets 50, fold fold fold, we call 50, HU OOP.
Turn 250 - 7♣
check, V bets 175...
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Even though I don't feel awesome about every play, I think it's all defensible and prolly what I would do too, and I now fold the turn.
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all good till turn now we're not getting correct odds doublt an A would be good
sigh fold
Anyone check-raising flop?
Into V's ridiculously-sized 3! pf? No. Are you limp-calling pf ap with a king? I guess with things like K4s, etc..., maybe?? Though 44 is far more likely. Reps thin.
Lol at a straddle by someone with 25 straddles, 4 limps despite that, then a 5x raise by V. Just a festival of, "Huh?," kind of things going on. Tbh, I'm surprised BU didn't ship over the juicer raise. And that leads to the thought of what does this type of player make a juicer raise with? AKs/KQs/AQs etc? I guess H can make AQs fold, and we still have decent equity, but they lately always have a K when I try this.
Though I like playing suited aces for cheap, and you almost got through the gauntlet unscathed, I'd much rather 3!/f with it here than call with that shorty in the straddle. Not meaning to be rude; I just never get to see a cheap flop in these situations. If I could, then sure, why not?
Result: I fold turn, V says he had a PP
pretty tempting to do something aggressive on both streets (pre / flop) given the ak hand. man turn sucks but hand seems ok. would think backraise pre gets through alot more than it should though or at least gii with btn with all the dead money
Pretty tempting spot to limp jam pre.
You need 40% equity to make the call if you aren't getting paid on the river. Against QQ you have 25% equity. So you can only make this call if V is going to pay off a river jam or has enough bluffs we can beat. Even if he pays off 100% not sure we have enough behind to justify a call.
As described, I doubt V is paying us off without a K when the FD comes in. I doubt he has a lot of bluffs that A high can beat. So I'd lean towards fold.
Think I mostly play the hand the same way, and just fold turn.
Flop call’s okay too, but you’re mainly hoping to spike a flush or get cheap showdown.
