Fold K’s on 7 high flop?

Fold. If V2 is an okayish player, I would assume he check raises the flop only with made hands, never draws. I’m also worried about the call by V1 who could well be on the draw. Highly read dependent. I guess you can jam to fold out V1 but V2 calls you with the sets.

V2 x-r into the 2 of you, after you bet 65% on a flop you, tbh, should have mostly missed and a caller who has God knows what. Bet 20 or so and OK, call.

Even if V1 folds, pot'll be 309 with 375 back...what are we hoping for? "An OKish player. Nothing fancy though.," V is going to have all the suited aces overcalling in BB, and if they were frisky enough to x-r air or even just overs and a heart draw, you probably would've noticed before now.

I hate myself for saying it, but I let this go.

Villain xr is a bit small relative to how dynamic the texture is and with 2 players in the pot. For me, that makes me prefer call.

Its very easy for him to overvalue worse hands to 'see where he's at' and have some semi-bluffs.

Hero could be folding a lot of equity for cheap, in what could stay a 3w pot, or where he is ahead.

My biggest hesitation is that stack sizes are awkward and turn is can be trickier to navigate if V1 doesn't fold

My default is to call without a read that V2 is too passive to attempt a x/r line with an overpair. The raise is less than 50% pot and it's not at all crazy to think we might have the best hand. Kind of common for people to get overly giddy flopping all undercards to their 99 or TT.

Would just fold flop without some reason to do otherwise. Would also bet way less on the flop.

Yes, BB can maybe decide to raise 88-QQ here ... the problem is that you have to get to showdown correctly.

In theory 43/64/86 are possible, but with an EP limp and an MP raise they are less likely pre and less likely to raise post ... but 77/55/22 are almost guaranteed for both actions.

You have Kh, so raise is terrible IMO ... but calling and semi bluffing heart turns might be fine. V1 very likely overcalling though and it's a bit annoying/weird when turn is Jh and V1 just rips it into you (or even just bluffing 3 ways).

Also not great if the main bluffs V finds are A4hh/A3hh.

yeah bro, I’m prob letting it go here. live $1/2 guys just don’t x/r that flop light multiway. it’s sets or big combo draws almost always. not saying it’s a huge mistake to call once, but you’re gonna hate most turns.

Not jamming. Not folding. Just calling. If he wants me to fold or he wants to win a big pot he'll have to fire again.

Results: H figures V has a set and folds. Obviously on the tight side. Calling maybe would have been smart but I didn’t know what I was going to do on OTT so I quit the hand.

V racked up two orbits later. Said he had 89hh there. The way he said it I tend to believe him.

i prob just fold here. in theory you can call once and re evaluate turns, but live 1/2 population is just never raising light multiway on that texture. they’re not bluffing enough, and when they are it’s still gonna be heart draws with tons of equity.

It's a gross spot, and I agree with those who said the mistake was in c-betting. Even heads-up, this is a board where a solver is checking back large pps about 40% of the time. 4-ways we have to pot control even more because there are so many high-equity draws on this board that can make our lives miserable, and are indifferent to getting all the money in now, plus all the Vs have the nut advantage. Everybody has sets except H. Any V could have 98/86hh, H doesn't. And these are the kinds of semi-bluffs that the nittiest of fish will find a x/r with. When it goes multi-way, you simply have to be a ton more cautious with your big overpairs because it is so easy to torch into very strong hands.

AP, its probably close. You can call, maybe V2 slows down on a brick turn, but we have V1 to worry about as well and being stuck in the middle isn't a good place to be. If we were HU I'd say call and evaluate turn, I think players slow down more than they should with draws. With V1 behind who might reopen the action after you flat figuring he is pot committed anyway, I think fold was right. Next time, be more cautious when the flop misses you this bad multiway. A big pair is just one pair and isn't so great 4 ways. That's why we try to raise and get HU pre.

In a four way pot, low stakes opponents are going to donk sometimes with their sets and 2P on this sort of board texture. If they go for a check raise with 2P+, they tend to go bigger.

There was $124 in the pot when action got back to him. If he over-bet, I might believe him. But not when he makes it $110 over $35 and a call, when we start $500 eff. His 2P and sets want to set up for a turn jam on a brick, and charge draws the max. This size is too small, and would lead me to think he has more draws in range.

Jamming just folds out his worst draws. If he has 2P+ he calls, and he might call with his best combo draws. When we're IP, I'd rather flat and make him choose between barreling or giving up on brick turns. On a 7-high board, a lot of turns are going to be better for our range than his.

I think our c-bet was too big. We could have made it $15 again, kept the SPR more manageable for ourselves, and forced V to play OOP with an awkward SPR for him. If he wants to jam $375 on the turn with his draws or 2P, let's see him do it.

But even as played, I think he has enough bluffs and we have enough equity to continue. If he jams turn, then we can fold. If he barrels for a small size, we flat again, and play fifth street chicken.