AQo vs maniac
1/3 live 6 handed.
Villain is a huge maniac with no fold button earlier. Eventually he got schooled for about 3~4 buyins(500 each). We also got aggro vs him a few times raising on flops/turns, he folded all 3 after the ak hand. He folds to gigantic bets only but not small bets. He has been showing bluffs the whole night. Everybody was looking him up light. After he's down 3 buyin he has toned down his aggression.
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HH1
Co opens to 15
Hero flats w/AK praying for maniac to squeeze.
Sb calls
Villain in bb 3bets to 40
Co calls
Hero jams for 395.
Villain snaps with KT
we are good.
HH2
Mp opens to 10
Villain in co 3bets w/Q4o to 30
2~3 callers
Mp jams for 150
Villain snaps
HH3
Mp opens to 15
Villain calls in btn w/47o
Flop 348dd Mp checks, Villain bets like 20,Mp calls
Turn 5d Mp checks Villain bets 40, Mp calls
River 8, Mp checks villain bets 60, mp tank call w/ak, villain is good w/47???
HH4
some limpers
Villain in btn opens to 30
Sb and bb calls
Shortstacker shove for 80 total.
all call, no side pot.
Flop A76hh all checks to villain, villain bets 100, sb calls bb raises to 275, Villain call. sb folds
Turn 5 bb jams for like 150 more, villain calls w/AT, bb had top2 a7
They ended up chopping running twice.
HH5
Villain in +2 opens to 20
Btn and bb calls
Flop T77r Villain cbets 35, Bb calls
Turn 4, bb donks 50, Villain raises to 175, bb folds. Villain shows 23???
Effective 250(he lost them all)
Hero limps AQo in utg(we probably better opening ourselves but we decided to get tricky)
Villain in sb opens to 27.
Hero? call or 3bet? size?
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I'm just ripping it in given this guy hates folding and we're sub-100bb.
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I think I like 3! $100-125, and just get the rest of the money in most post-flop spots. Even 85-95 is ok if you are comfortable at higher SPR post.
If villain is calling a shove sure shove, but we want a maniac to call our 3, this hand is too high in range to want to fold out all his trash. We have much better candidates to limp-shove, like small and medium poker pairs, weaker Ax combos, and KQ. [Potentially wider than that]
I have a very LRRsy strategy at the best of times, but with this guy at the table opening anything from anywhere is terrible, imo. So obviously on board with the open limp.
Think we can either just shove now or perhaps size so that we have a PSB shove on the flop (which should give us some FE against pears on the flop) so $85.
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We ended up shipping, and pray he would snap with random trash like he did before.
Anyhow, he snapped with AK. I guess we can maybe call it a cooler???
I believe his aggro tendencies has slowed down alot in the past half an hour after he rebought so many times. And I was still using reads from 2 hours ago. I guess first impression sticks for a long time even if villain changes gear later on.
Maybe flatting is better? Dunno.
Admitting up front that I didn't read through all the prior hand histories. I'm just taking OP at his word that V is a maniac, or a whale, or whatever...
I don't totally understand limping UTG with AQo in a 6-handed game with two blinds, when the maniac is in the SB. We're basically asking the three players behind us to over-limp or possibly limp-back-raise, and we'll have to fold.
Once we limp, and it folds back around to SB (and I assume BB folds to his raise?), I want to 3B this, but I don't think we need to go all in, especially not when A) we'll have position on him post flop, and B) he apparently folds to gigantic bets but not small bets.
If that's true, then logically, I'd think he only calls a jam when he has a hand better than AQo and folds when he doesn't. Maybe he occasionally folds AK or some middling PP's, and maybe he calls with KQ or something else we beat, but why can't we just 3B him to $75 or $80 and just out-play him?
He's only got $250 to start, right? Let's give him a chance to make a mistake by calling off 1/3 of his stack pre and either stack him or make him fold (incorrectly) post. Why are we tempting this guy to get it in light and praying to fade whatever cards he needs to double-up through us?
If we 3B him to $75 or $80 and he jams, I guess we have to call, but I'm not really loving this line. I think we'd have been better off opening to $15, and if he 3B's us to $60, calling and out-playing him from IP post.