AQo vs shortstack fish

Fold.

weird, probably fold...

Has he raised any hands and have you seen what they were? For me, AQo is a default fold against a passive player who hardly raises, especially from EP, especially with no dead money in the pot to help offset flips minus maximum rake + drops.

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Almost never folding. Probably calling and playing poker.

Fold? FOLD? Y'all crazy. I can get behind calling or 3!ing. V certainly has lower pps in his range and maybe even some AJ, KQ type hands we crush. We have to continue. Being cautious is fine, I get not wanting to just rip it in. But if our read is that V is a passive fish, he isn't jamming to flop as a bluff so we can call, see what happens and evaluate.

But jamming AQ for $110 and flipping sometimes isn't terrible. V could have a fold range.

Just read the results. I think your assessment is wrong. Sometimes you're flipping, and you're going to lose flips. Folding AQ would be a serious leak. Call would probably be better because maybe you can outplay V on the flop. He is folding if any A, K, or Q hits. So about 50% of the time, you can just take the pot away, and maybe if the flop is monotone or really connected, he chickens out and doesn't put it all in you can lose less or steal it.

You can't go around folding AQ pre in heads-up scenarios. If you're the better player post-flop, that favors a call. Being OOP favors just getting it in. Decide which factor is more relevant in this particular scenario.

But worrying about doubling up a fish in a flip - it happens. Be glad it's in the hands of a fish where you can get it back later with interest. Let the fish revel in his moment of winning. That makes him more likely to do something great like start drinking, top off his stack, add more next time he gets felted, etc. Congratulate him, make him feel good about himself, and like he's a great player. That has more EV than whatever you might be losing vs his range.

If you want the fish to keep coming around, you have to feed them sometimes. Being a 60/40 dog is hardly the end of the world.

Doesn’t this forum call that playing bingo?

Any non-fold, non-AI preflop action has a bingo component. I’m advocating not to fold and probably not AI.

I think playing bingo is just fine. We’re allowed to try to hit something.

Putting in a hugenormouse ~15% of our stack to try and hit something on the flop is horrible, imo. And against a typical tight range of like TT+\AK, we have horrible IO versus RIO, especially OOP (i.e. think of what we win versus JJ on A high flops versus what we lose versus KK on Q high flops, etc.).

FWIW, against a tight TT+/AK range we're about a 70/30 dog, so when you add in rake this isn't remotely close to a poor flip if we're thinking of shoving. Having said that, a tilting shortstack fish may go off the rails here; but I think it is fair to range tightly (at least until we see otherwise) if he's raising big in EP whereas he usually limps.

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Sorry if this sounds harsh, Dango, but for $110, does it matter?

With no reads, I'd think the EV's between folding, calling, and raising would run pretty close. Even with the loose-passive rec read, if he's been stacked 3-4 times, maybe he's tilted, and tired, and looking for an excuse to go home, and this is A9s, ATo, or 55.

Sometimes you're dominated, but a lot of the time, you're flipping against some PP. At $110 effective in a 1/3 game where players routinely open to $15, you're effectively playing around 18-22BB's deep, in theory-land. It can't be terrible to get stacks in with AQo vs the opponent who could be tilting.

It also can't be terrible to look at V's stack, say, "you're not deep enough for me to call," and fold.

But agonizing over the decision in a live game is terrible. Don't do that. If you're unsure, fold, or flip a coin, or randomize some other way. Tanking here when your fishy opponent is only playing a $110 stack will just make other people at the table want to throw a shoe at you.

I meant in other spots it’s ok to flop or set mine. I don’t think calling is that bad here but I’d rather fold.