Bluff catch on river with Jacks?

Any vibes from this player? I think pre and flop are OK. Why did you check the turn? If it was to bluff/catch, go for it.

I wouldn't hate a fold vs lots of Vs.

His sets are reduced, but no obvious draws. I don't think he is either value betting or bluffing a worse pair.

You bet the flop for a decent size and I wouldn't expect him to float that much and you block a lot of rational floats.

Btw ur post a little confusing. At first I thought you were utg then you say you're +1.

Next time use 'hero' instead of your position. Villain instead of position. You can label hero/villains position initially then it's much easier to understand.

Ok let's try ranging villain
His x/c flop range has alot of 88~QQ, some KQ/AK, some sets, some 7x(78/79/76/a5 etc).
Then there are villains who would float flops with random hands like AQ/AJ/AT.
Some fishes floats random pp like 33~66.

Now question is when you check back turn does he monkey bet river for this size with his whole range?

Also even though villain is an unknown, add some description ie. young white guy with hoodie, shades and headphones.

So V opened $21 in a 2/3 game? Was this game wild because that seems awfully big and highly indicative of someone scared to play QQ+. I dont really want to be 3bet folding JJ vs someone like that so I'm just gonna setmine unless he's a maniac.

Hate to comment as played since it's not how I play, but I think we can rule out KK/AA absent a 4bet, therefore his range seems like QQ/Kx. QQ wouldnt lead and Kx cant fold to a jam of 3x so I think you just have to forfeit since you overplayed it pre.

Confusing thread as I’m not sure who’s who. If you’re UTG+1, continue the story by betting the turn. Claim that King until you meet resistance - everyone calls the continuation bet on the flop, so you have no info yet.

Checking back the turn opens the door for villain to bet the river. Your story said I have no King, so villain thinks his nines are good. No reason to think the 5c was a big help, but now you’re simply guessing on the river.

The turn is the inflection point. Everything through the flop is pretty standard for either player no matter the hands. I would like this post more if UTG+1 bet the 50 on the turn. Calculated risk is part of the game. Opponent’s not folding a king, but will fold most everything else.

Also understand if the board shows an ace instead of a king, I’m out. It’s much more likely to have hit villain than a king.

Aggression wins
Not being aggressive early and then checking back. You have to continue the story or it looks like you’re giving up. I don’t expect the turn bet to be called very often, but if called…. now It’s likely you’re beat. Not guessing anymore

Hey OP, take a look at the sticky on how to format a hand history. Use villain and hero. Amounts in dollars or Euros, not big blinds.

Not sure what I'm missing, but river seems an easy fold.

We have an UTG+1 3 bet by a random low stakes player. What part of a typical range is behind us? Perhaps AQ if we are really lucky but that's often not in a typical low stakes 3b range especially in EP.

Edit... OK I reread I don't understand. We are asking what UTG+1 should do yet you showed the cards for UTG, which I assumed was you. And didn't grok that you(?) LED

In general we should not try to be bluff catching randos in low stakes until we actually know their tendencies.

For the future, please just post hands using currency amounts, rather than increments of BB's, forcing people to do math. It's just so much simpler.

Also, your hand history is confusing as hell. Are we UTG with JJ, or UTG1 with some other hand? Are you asking us what UTG1 should do after you lead out on the river, or did you check from UTG, and UTG1 bet?

If the action was check-bet-call on the flop, and check-check on the turn, then we checked and UTG1 bet the river...what is he betting after he checks back the turn on a brick?

Just now seeing most others are as confused as I am. And re-reading the OP, I'm guessing hero is in UTG1, not UTG. So...

PRE - V opened to $21 from UTG? That seems like a huge RFI first to act. I don't hate 3B'ing him, but I'd probably just make it 2x, like $40. That's enough to make sure no one behind us makes a loose call, and we'll get this HU and IP vs UTG.

FLOP - If we're range-betting IP when we're HU as the PFR in a 3BP, I'd c-bet smaller, like 1/3 pot or less, so maybe around $40 (13BB's). I'm not sure I'd range bet the K-high flop, but I don't hate it in a tight configuration of UTG vs UTG1, on K72, where V isn't likely to have 2P+, and is pretty capped at AK or worse.

TURN - Why are we checking back on a brick? Is this for pot control? Are we hoping to induce a bluff on the river so we can bluff-catch? I think we should either barrel for a large size, because V is capped at TP or air, or check back our SDV with a plan to evaluate the river based on V's action / bet size.

RIVER - Ehhhh...V's bet size is too middle-of-the-road to tell us much. He could be stabbing with air, or he could be going for some thin value. Some reads would help.

Our line of 3B pre, c-bet for a medium size on the flop, check back the turn looks weak AF, and is likely to induce bluffs. I'm not sure I buy that QQ is going to come out and bet just because we checked back, and I think a lot of players are going to play AK faster than this.

Maybe we lose to KX+, but I think V has a lot of worse 1P hands and AX that are going to float the flop, and would have check-folded to a turn barrel, but are likely to stab the river, even for a chunky size, when we check back the turn. His big open from UTG sort of smells like TT, JJ, or AQ.

I probably flick in the call.