77 in the co
77 in the co

77 in the co

I hate mid pairs. 2-3 NL about 500 eff.

Hero in the co with red 77.

Pre: Hero opens 15, btn and bb call

Flop (47) : Ks8s3c
Bb checks

08 January 2026 at 01:06 PM
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You make it pretty large pre but okay. Flop is fine as a check-call, check-fold or cbet in mixed approach. 3-ways checking can't be bad.


I would check/fold here. Would rather continue with the 7s (have 2 clean set outs and minor equity with bdfd).

I would be more likely to cbet K53 or K63. That way you can get value from second pair and can turn more equity.


Check-evaluate. Reasonable to think BTN will bet Kx. BB may x/r, and it's a trivial fold. If flop checks through and BB checks again on turn, we could have the best hand.


I would probably check this spot and evaluate if button decides to bet. I check tp in this spot a lot (maybe too much) which makes it easier to check middling pairs because I know my hand isn't always face-up.

EDIT: because Dan posted basically the same thing that I did, haha.


Overall agree checking makes sense though I would glance at the button and see if I catch him disinterested. You included no villain info, but if I think I can fold the button, I like a cb.

Looking at other posts & most are checking out of concern for buttons action. If you get by him, you could check it down the rest of the way and realize you’re equity.

Sometimes when I’m slow to act, maybe messing with the chips, people get impatient and telegraph info. But yea, if he’s looking ready to play, checks good.


Check/evaluate. Between his action and your read on him, BN should give a good idea what he has after you check to him.

Non-premium pairs are frustrating in low stakes because a lot of their value comes from being the bastion of your range that will call down balanced betting ranges and always beat bluffs. This is significantly less valuable versus a field that dramatically underbluffs and overfolds such that you can usually just bluff out hands worse than an underpair anyway.


I probably open smaller (and don't even hate an open limp) but whatever.

Prolly go either way on the flop? Our vulnerable hand could be best on a drawy board that needs some protection, so a small cbet can't be horrible? But checking to have a better idea of what Button (and BB's reaction to a bet) prolly fine too (although it does risk checking thru and then having one of a million bad cards turn).

GcluelessNLnoobG


Check and probably fold. Definitely don't open limp. How can you even beat the rake open limping btn


by acescracked84 m

Definitely don't open limp. How can you even beat the rake open limping btn

Not that it makes much difference (as I'd be cool open limping the Button too), but we're actually in the CO.

A huge part of 77s winning comes from flopping sets, so we're completely cool with encouraging as many people into the pot as possible.

Of course raising and trying to take down pots UI is fine too. But it's likely a lot closer than you think.

A huge part of beating the rake is allowing bad opponents to make horrendous mistakes postflop; possibly folding them out of the pot preflop doesn't accomplish that.

You could definitely argue that raising is more EV than open limping, but the difference between the two probably isn't awesum versus horrendous, it's more fine vs acceptable.

Gnoteverythinginpokerisblackversuswhite,thingscanbeclose,imoG


Pre is fine and good -- often normal size in my 1/2 and 1/3 games, so completely fine in 2/3. I don't mind a limp in some games, either.

Check/evaluate is also fine. If you have a tighter image, you can c-bet depending on how sticky V's are, etc.


I gotta stop reading this sub forum, advocating limping 77 from the CO? That’s a Vegas Vacation Wallace Shawn quote for sure.

A $15/20 flop bet takes this down more than it should. If somebody is sticky with an 8 they will bail on a second barrel. Pretty simple flop for 77.


I play against guys who limp/raise with AA/KK or limp AK every time and will never fold post, so limping w/ 77 and hitting a set can be insanely profitable. Plus, they limp/call raises very wide and are very sticky, so raising 77 can be suicide.


by ntnBO m

I gotta stop reading this sub forum, advocating limping 77 from the CO? That’s a Vegas Vacation Wallace Shawn quote for sure.

A $15/20 flop bet takes this down more than it should. If somebody is sticky with an 8 they will bail on a second barrel. Pretty simple flop for 77.

Would you be c-betting and barreling 77 for value, or as a bluff? That line seems like it would be a polarization mistake.

If the plan is to bet twice, and then give up because we just put our opponent on KX when they call twice, we could arrive at the same place and realize our equity for less by just checking the flop.

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