2/5. Did I Just Get Unlucky?

Sub-100bb with KK, 4bet pot, shrug-shove flop. Seems fine.

Yes you got unlucky. I don't think there was any way to get away. Preflop KK is good enough to stack off. With less than a pot sized bet remaining on the flop you pretty much just have to get it in.

An ace high flop might be the one exception where you could consider folding. A queen high flop is not great either since pocket queens are one of the main hands you're targeting preflop for value, but you don't have enough chips behind to get away.

One note about your 4-bet sizing. You put in more than 1/3 of your chips which is basically pot committing. I might have just jammed pre, or else make it a little smaller so that you could more credibly represent hands that might raise/fold.

Just unlucky.

I'd make it 20 pre, 25 or 30 if you could get away with it. Wouldn't have changed anything though.

Just posted a similar spot where I folded QQ. I guess I needed to call and spike a queen on the flop - lol

You could play this hand many ways and still not avoid this cooler.

This sucks, but it falls under things you can’t control. You can’t play timidly

Playing well and losing just doesn’t feel that great in the moment, but keep playing well.

With your stack size, just jam pre.

Yeah jam pre to balance the AK shoves.

We are jamming 460 into a 55 3bet???

I would. Given the stack sizes, I think jamming is better than making it 150. I don’t like a micro 4b from OOP and I don’t like calling. Jam is my only move here

I'm not sure you could escape in this situation, but what did you think his 4 bet calling range was? You made the decision making easy for the villain. If he missed, he folds. If he has AA or QQ, he's calling.

I see people saying this size is a "scared bet" or something ... but close to 0% of the people saying it have a 4bet to 165/fold range. So when you raise to 165 you are basically shoving, but letting V call worse hands to see a flop _much_ cheaper.

TBF there's some value in letting V call QQ/JJ/TT and then fold when you shove flops, vs. just shoving preflop ... but it's going to get tricky on Q/J/T high flops, and you'll look like the fish. And, IMNSO, people underestimate the value in getting folds preflop. to win 100% of the time (like this is 2+ hours of play you are about to win, in one hand, if V folds).

Like when solvers are here 4bets are going to be less than 165, and they'll play postflop better than you. So pick a lane, either 4bet to less and don't always stack off _and_ have part of the range which folds to shoves preflop ... or consider just shrug shoving, esp. OOP.

Yes, absolutely, even with AK, at this stack depth.

We block AA/KK, we can fold out a lot of PP's in our opponents' 3B range, and if they call, so long as they don't have AA or KK, we're close to flipping, and we get to realize all our equity by seeing all five cards, rather than flatting pre and folding post when we whiff.

Most low stakes recs 4B way too tight, just AA/KK. When we jam AK, we'll often get credit for having AA/KK. Typically QQ is the only PP that ever calls it off, and that's just 6 combos out of probably 48+ that make up our opponents' 3B range, if they're 3B'ing 99+/AK-AJs/A5s.

Start giving them ATs, 88, and any other hands that will fold, especially if they fold AK, and the jam prints. We get to deny a $hlt-ton of equity by making them fold a lot of hands that are ahead of ours.

Unlucky. We've all been there.

This is the perfect example of win a small pot or lose a big one with AA KK, especially hu oop shortstacked facing a 3bet.

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Played fine. BBV =========>>>>>>>>>

You definitely got unlucky and with those stacks and that action I would have done the same thing. 7.5 times out of 8.5 times you have the best hand as long as he doesn’t have AA.