TPTK in BB - Value Bet or Blocker Bet?

TPTK in BB - Value Bet or Blocker Bet?

Stakes: $2/$3 NLH with $6 Optional Straddle
Hero's Effective Stacks: $250
V's Effective Stacks: $400
Hero (BB): A J

Pre-flop:
HJ raises to $20. Folds to Hero. Hero calls.

Flop: 7 8 8
Hero checks. HJ bets $12. Hero calls.

Turn: J
Hero leads for $30. HJ calls.

River: 9
Hero bets $30. HJ raises to $80. Hero ?

Questions:
1. I bet $30 again on the river. Was this a value bet or a blocker bet?
2. When HJ raises my $30 to $80, is this ever a bluff in a $2/$3 game?
3. Did I make my hand too face-up by betting small?

17 March 2026 at 10:38 AM
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Pre-flop fold for me - I don’t like that hand OOP. I would call against some players though

Why do you call the flop?
Why did you donk the turn?
Why did you go so small on the river?
Sorry, I have more questions than answers

1. A foolish bet that might induce a raise whether v has it or not. What are you blocking?

2. I would almost always expect to see at least a ten.

3. I think it was hard to figure out what you were doing. Think about the hands you beat: A9, A7, KJ - is he raising with any of those hands or does he have something better?

My suggestion is to play strong hands in position with the initiative. Have reasons for what you do and know why you did it.


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by Funpokerrr

we understand the situation you’re asking about. NLH with deep stacks

We're 40 straddles and less than 100 BB's deep.

I won't make you pay me for that coaching.


I don't call with this hand pre from OOP. I'd rather 3bet with the right reads on HJ (which we don't have). Flop is ok for the price, turn is fine, check/fold river. Definitely fold now.


by FreeCard

Why do you call the flop?.

Villain down-bet to 12. Hero more than enough expressed odds to draw to his 6 overcards.

Why did you donk the turn?

Value. So many hands in his range have one high spade that will call a bet


by Javanewt

I'd rather 3bet with the right reads on HJ (which we don't have). .

We're 3-bet bluffing when we're 80bb's deep? cuz reads?

Sure, go with that.


You play 10NL online so I doubt you know anything about reads. At least you didn't recommend check/folding the flop this time.


Help me out here, OP. H has 40-45 straddles, right? You know how short that is and what that does to your ranges? This isn't a tournament.

Assuming I get involved at all with AJo and the straddle still left to act, this is a 3! to 80, not a call. Hopefully V and straddle fold. They 'should' if you've been appropriate tight up to this point.

(Can't scroll up to see the action. Yay, new software.) But I'm tempted to stick it in on turn when H spikes top pair, despite the problematic board. AP, no, not calling when 4 to a suit and the rest of it.

Edit, 887J9... yikes. H donks out on the flush completing turn and V doesn't care. Then V raises when a bunch of boats become likely. Ballsy if they did this with like JT, which still beats you ofc. Not enough back to bluff shove either.

Buy in for more, or tighten up a lot, is what I would do.


1: Neither, it's a monkey stab.

2: I'd bluff you in the line you took, but it's really hard to find bluffs that didn't get there. Maybe red QQ that thinks its bluffing. A creative player might find a bluff with AQdd. But V's range is so value heavy, he can raise almost everything except maybe SDV here.

3: Your line doesn't make sense. Why are you betting this turn ever? If you had a flush, why would you bet? If you have a draw, why would you bet? If you have a boat, why would you bet? What do you think V has?

V raised pre, so a lot of broadways and pps. V sized down flop, so probably a range or near range bet.

You donk the turn?!? - V calls with pps, flushes, straights, and broadways that contain one spade. At most, you fold out complete air like KQhh. V has zero incentive to raise anything because he gets to act last OTR. Though a more skilled V will recognize the donk as strange and weak and float wide, looking to steal the river.

River - you lead small, V has all the Asx, a bunch of Tx, larger pps and a bazillion flushes. Vs range is crazy strong. I think V can profitably range bet his value range is so wide. He probably calls the strong non-flush hands like red Tx or large pps.


by Javanewt

You play 10NL online so I doubt you know anything about reads. At least you didn't recommend check/folding the flop this time.

Literally the most ignorant comment I've seen you make this month, and that is really saying something. You know nothing about reads, nothing about poker, and even less about me.

Once again, I'm happy to hear any criticism of me or my posts that is not imagined, made up, falsified, faked, created, conjured, or pulled out of your rancid ass.

By lying, you are just complimenting me.


If you don't believe you can 3bet here with the right image against the right player, you are wrong. I am not the only one who agrees.


Nice language though -- your true colors coming out.


by Javanewt

If you don't believe you can 3bet here with the right image against the right player, you are wrong. I am not the only one who agrees.

Listen to what you're saying.....

"Right player", "Right image". In other words, if you can magically summon the precisely perfect conditions for your bonkers line, then it works. You never say what the "right image" or the "right player" are though. You just insist that they exist and there's even a realistic possibility all of those circumstances have converged in this exact moment at this exact time.

Sure, poker is easy if you're God. You're not God. You're a fish. And just because the other fish agree with you, doesn't mean you all aren't fish.

And finally, there is no universe where a stack-committing 3-bet bluff with AJo is advisable in a $3 poker game. Not with any image. Not against any player. That's totally absurd and you should be ashamed that thought even entered your head.

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