1/3 ~ combo draw limp pot oop

What is hero's stack? You have the villains as eff 270 and eff 1100.

I'm not folding 2nd pair / FD / backdoor straight draw but I don't love it enough to raise. I call flop and see what happens.

eff 1100 vs v2, v2 has a bit more maybe around 1300

I’m too darn tight, this is a trivial fold for me OOP. Can’t raise from the SB = fold

As played, definitely a call - you got a piece with not much money involved. Don’t go jacking things up, unless you’re just trying to fold them right now - not a likely outcome at 1/3 unless you go very big.

As usual, the turn will be pivotal
If you improve, focus on getting value
If you don’t, the flush bluff is still there, but you will have to evaluate the action.

If you shove the bluff (or big bet) on the flop (the old me) you will win often (not forum approved) but still a consideration with someone like v2 where your 2nd pair is likely good ‘and he might call’ with worse.

Wondering others thoughts, but I tend to ignore the short stack in situations like this with full focus on the guy with the money.

Preflop- fine.
Flop- it wasn't explicitly mentioned but checking seems best. I think if you bet, say $10, and get called in 1-2 spots then your hand will be transparent if you have to check the turn.
2nd decision. Likewise if you c/r flop out of position you may have a difficult turn to play in a bloated pot. One of the Vs prob has a Kx and you don't credibly rep a ton of very strong made hands. But you have a good amount of equity with the pair+FD. So call.
The turn seems like it will be a more interesting decision.

Grunch:

It's kind of a dicey spot multi-way. There's a good chance someone has a higher pair and someone has a better draw. We're drawing dead or almost dead in that scenario.

Mostly just folding. If V1 was deeper or bluffy, I might raise. I don't think we have much if any fold equity here when V1 pots it facing four opponents and V2 calls next to act.

If we want to continue, I think it's better to raise than to call. We want one or both to fold. Might make it $75-$90. The problem is we'll be priced in if V1 jams over top.

It also sucks if we raise and BB or the initial limper is sandbagging with a big hand.

Think it's fine to make a nitty fold.

We're not folding on this flop. Not with a FD, backdoor to a straight, and 2nd pair. It's a limped pot, BB + 1st limper are left to act, let's call and see if they call or fold.

Yes, it's passive. It's also 5-ways and a short V1 just potted it 2nd to act.

SPR vs the sticky V2 is like 16:1 if only 3 remain. If all call, it's still like 12:1. SPR vs V1 will be like 4:1 and ~2.5:1. Giving V1 KQ-K8, H is like a 43% dog. Make it KJ only, H is a 35% dog. Even vs 55, H still has 31%. For 15 bucks, it's fine. Stay in vs the deep V2 who doesn't know when to quit.

AFA pf...w/e. Raise, limp, fold, I don't care. We're playing bingo for 2 bucks for a pot of 13. J9s seems as good a hand for that as any.

Think it depends on if V2 would iso pf with Axss / Qxss. If yes, probably lean more towards calling with hopes of coolering him if he makes a smaller flush.

Otherwise I’m x/r to $115

Preflop is whatever, all options aren't great at 1-3. Would generally mix limp or raise, but the mix is going to be heavily table/read based.

Don't mind lead or check first to act.

After the bet+call ... One of the major leaks at 1-2/1-3 is betting too much relative to the pot in limped pots on the flop. So the pot sized bet doesn't mean as much. Then the fact we are deep with V2 and V2 only called, I think it has to be better to raise here. If V1 3bets and V2 calls, or V1 calls and V2 back raises then we can talk about wtf to do.

I don't hate a flop call. If we are folding flop to 1 bet+call then preflop limp is spew.

Huh? We're way too strong to fold. Sure, it's possible we're against KT and another FD. It's also very possible that we're against a whole bunch of hands. The only action is that everyone limped. Then one player led out for $15. One player called.

V1 probably has Kx. Certainly, his bet looks like that. V2 probably doesn't - he probably raises with Kx especially with a good kicker.

The only question we need to be asking is if we believe we can get V1 to fold some Kx. We're 50/50 vs KQ, we're 59% vs A4ss.

So if we raise, V1 jams with Kx and V2 calls, there is now ~$600 in the pot and we can rip it in. We end up in a pot that is:

$810 main vs KQ and Ax FD we have 14.5% equity. ($117)
$1, 660 side vs Ax FD we have 59.5% equity ($987)

That's $1, 104 equity if Vs have their best hands. Not beating the rake, but if Vs ever have worse or if either folds we're even better. Say V1 has Axss and V2 has QTss, we're a favorite. Or if V1 has a hand like 55 and V2 has KQ.

And there really isn't any evidence that V2 loves his hand that much. V1 probably has something that we're drawing against, but with the dead money we're fine and if we can get more dead money in the pot the better.

Make it $120 so if V1 ships, the action is reopened and we will stuff it because a hand that flats, flats is going to have a really hard time calling another $800. If we get flatted in both spots, it kind of sucks on a brick, but we'll deal with that next card.

You omitted the part where I said I'd prefer raising to calling when you quoted me.

I don't think the range that flats twice is necessarily weak. In a limped pot it's entirely possible for someone to show up with 2P here.

I think it's an over-play to try to get stacks in right here and now. I'd raise small, not big, and just hope to get it heads up with decent equity. We still have to get through two uncapped ranges with two players behind us who initially checked.

Like the call pre, I would mix in donking this flop. Not sure what a pot sized bet means here - if that's a stronger range then call and see a turn, if a PSB here is balanced then go for a x/r.