£1/£2/£5 - dodgy TPTK flop spot

PRE - minor quibble, I'd just make it $40.

FLOP - 1/2 pot c-bet seems fine.

Not to sound dismissive, we're basically guessing what to do in response to CO's raise.

My immediate gut reaction is that his raise size is FOS after BB calls. I'd think 2P+ would raise larger when there's a FDFD on board, and he can target all our AK/AA for value. On the other hand, we're starting short, so he doesn't need to pile it in on the flop to get it all in by the river.

Playing 5 handed and being in position, I imagine he's likely to have a fairly wide range getting to the flop. He can certainly have some sets and 2P here, as well as some combo draws, or a hand like A4cc.

His small raise size puts us in a bind. We don't really want to flat call and invite BB to come along. If he's thinking on that level, he may have chosen this size to induce us to raise.

I don't think I could easily fold here. I'm struggling to see why flat calling would be best. By process of elimination, I'd want to 3B. Probably just jamming, and hoping to get called by worse KX, A4cc or some draw. Won't be surprised if he snaps with 2P+.

All that said, I wonder if folding isn't the best option. BB is likely on a draw or trapping, so we could be behind both opponents.

Interesting…
Yesterday I watched a strong player take two buyins from an extremely loose cannon while 5-handed. In reflection, the others & I were playing normal poker and this guy jacked up the aggression (button straddle, 3bets/overbets) with a player making terrible calls in the mix. It was definitely a lesson & I’m trying to learn from these guys.

Your spot is tough, but I think I would fold for two reasons: First, you have no club which would add equity and second, you still have the BB behind you with a strong range. Being OOP is also not helpful, and it just doesn’t feel like he would do this with KQ.

I wouldn’t argue with a jam, but you’ll have to avoid a flush & likely need to counterfeit 2pair.

Against one opponent, I would be much more likely to call down. I would look left to the BB and see if there are any signs that he’s folding. If he’s dropping out, I like a call & see the turn.

Gross spot. If CO is a solid LAG, the only hands that make sense are 44, 77, AK, maybe KQs, A7s. I think hero should fold.

At spr 3 on the flop with tptk doing anything but shoving over the raise would be a huge mistake.

No reads on BB. How old is he? Race?

I'm in the take some time and look to see if he's interested camp. If not, call down, if he seems interested I'd let it go until I had a better read on him.

Always a better spot to be had than this.

Thanks all

I shoved. BB reshoved a bit more. CO sigh calls.

Turn offsuit 9. River beautiful offsuit Ace.

I flip AK, CO mucks, but then BB turns over his pocket 7s. Puke ensues...

Oof.

Reviewing the advice I gave in my first reply, we could also just check flop, or use a smaller c-bet size, closer to 1/3 pot rather than 1/2. The intent would be to see if BB bets or raises and / or see if CO raises, which would give us more information about the strength of their hands.

Hypothetically, if you checked, BB checked, CO bet, you called, and then BB over-called or raised, we should be concerned we may be beat. I played a hand just like this in my last session - I opened AsJc from UTG, +1 called, LP called. I checked the KcQs7s flop, +1 checked, LP bet 1/2 pot, I called, and knew I was very far behind when +1 over-called. Sure enough, +1 was trapping with KQ, and LP had 77. I was able to get away on the turn, but +1 about doubled up LP by check-calling three streets.

That said, it's hard to avoid disaster, at this stack depth, when we 3B pre and flop TPTK on a two-flush board, versus an opponent who flopped a set. I wouldn't beat yourself up about it too much. Just internalize the idea that we don't always need to c-bet flop when we're multi-way.

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Very tough ugly spot esp 5-handed. I was recently reading the SS NL 2-7 section where he talks about being the middle man.

Not a perfect analogy but, BB coldcalls a 3bet pf, then calls a cbet on the flop with the initial raiser behind him, should raise some alarm bells. Not having the Ac also not ideal.

But yeah he’s unknown, very tough not to shove there. Certainly a great fold if you can find it. I’ve also folded here and then been shown AXcc & KxQc (or Ac7x or AKxx).