Was I just angled?

Hard to say. Some people do bet like this to announce all in, and sometimes that can be hard to hear even when headphones are not in. But this does sound pretty suspicious to me. Villain looks like a grinder/pro, leading me to believe he knew exactly what he was doing. The quick, nonchalant tiny bets on flop and turn build a pattern of repetition for you to think that the river bet is also a smaller bet. Certainly the more common strategy a pro would take here would be to make larger bets on earlier streets to make the river jam relatively small. He could have just been feigning weakness, but it is definitely plausible he was trying to bait you into thinking the river bet was a smaller bet. Villain knows your headphones are in. He may have said all in quietly.

The only thing you can do to protect yourself is don't automatically snap what looks like a small bet, and clarify with the dealer the bet size before you call. But that doesn't mean you weren't angled, and it totally sucks if that is what villain was trying to do here.

Villain I'm sure knew what he was doing as he said that similar things have happened to him and his only statement during the 'trial' was that he did nothing wrong in the way he acted.

I can say for certain I was never calling down a bet of $500+ with 2nd pair there. I already had felt how strong the button was with the $125 call of my 3 check-raise and then his $75 bet on the turn. Pretty much the only reason I called either the $75 turn and $100 river bet was because I was significantly tilted at the time. That said, no way I would punt my full stack. I'm just not that guy. I'm more nitty than not.

Really, it's very common to throw 1 chip in for an all-in or to push your stack or to verbal, but to verbal and then slap down 4 chips across the betting line like you just did on the previous streets seems to be a good ploy to create confusion in case your opponent makes a quick snap decision and doesn't hear the verbal.

Yes you got angled.

But yes, you should have been paying better attention.

The ruling was standard for most cardrooms, but personally I think most cardrooms handle this situation badly. I think if someone says one thing but does another, his opponent should be able to choose which of the two he prefers to act on. Even putting in one chip while betting all in should not be allowed. Either move all your chips in, or clearly say "all in" and move no chips. Moving any chips other than all of them never helps anything, it can only cause confusion.

If he clearly said all-in, he did nothing wrong. I don't think you are required to push your whole stack forward when you go all-in. Not as long as you verbally announce it. If you didn’t hear him, then you shouldn’t have been wearing headphones. And apparently you snap called before the dealer had the chance to place an all-in button. I'm sorry, but it seems to me this is on you. I don't see the angle.

Also, it’s 1/3 and you raise to 40? What is that about?

consider adding a welders mask to your headphones so you cant see your hand either since obviously nothing about your cards matter

No, you are not, but why do you think the guy putting in four $25 chips while saying all-in? Is there any innocent reason for him to be doing that?

No, you didn't get angled. Verbal declarations are binding. It's on you to know that and act accordingly. Sounds to me like the villain was trying to be "cool" like on High Stakes Poker by saying "all in" and putting out a small stack of chips. It happens in every episode as few actually push all their chips in the middle while all-in.

You guys don't know what angling is.

Maybe it's because this question was asked in the wrong forum - it really belongs in the card room forum.

i have seen this done to the headphone wearing crowd 100 times, you got angled, but your fault for not paying attention and muting your music

I am very familiar with angling and what it is. I just have a hard time believing this is that when I see this action on every episode of a very popular poker show. It is far more likely that he's trying to emulate them than angle, especially when verbal declarations are binding.

This is a silly thread.

Did you miss that villain was a grinder/pro?

That type does not bet a certain way because he saw it on TV. He knew what he was doing.

In my game I see this a lot. Someone says all-in and puts a random amount of chips over the line. Sometimes it's a single pile, sometimes one chip, sometimes their whole stack and I've seen everything in between. As long as my verbal announcement is clear, I'm just gonna assume it's clear for everyone. If my opponent is wearing headphones and hasn't turned the volume down or off, then that's on them. I'm not gonna go out of my way to shout and wildly gesture at them I'm all-in, in the off chance they might not have heard me. But no, it wouldn't even cross my mind that I could angle them into calling an all-in by making them think they were snap calling a small bet. Too many unknown variables for me to even be aware of this, I reckon.

If OP is conveying the story correctly it certainly sounds like villain took advantage of his wearing headphones. The previous streets actions with those tiny bets set it up perfectly.

The guy is scummy for doing it, but OP needs to not have headphones in. Theres a few guys i see regularly at my card room that always have headphones in and it drives everyone nuts because half the time they dont know what the action is since they cant hear anything.

In fact I had the same situation happen against me in a hand. I said all in and first grabbed a stack of reds for 100 and the guy was about to beat me into the pot but the dealer was quite fast to throw the all in button to me and the guy pulled back just before throwing his 4 greens in to match. Now i didnt do anything weird on previous streets to set him up or anything and if binding action had happened i would only take the 100 from him bc I want to keep a good friendly image w people im going to be playing with a lot and I dont need to win on misunderstandings.

The 13x open, and check-raising QQ on K33 in a 3bet pot, seem far more worthy of discussion.

Please, Villain is a 1/3 "pro" lolol. If anyone is going to try to emulate TV poker players, it's someone playing 1/3 "professionally"

Every room I've played in you _have_ to put some chips in the pot when you go all in and putting all 2k in the pot would be annoying.

I've seen a bunch of floors rule that you could either call the extra 400 or fold and lose the 100 you put in ... but that only really works if villain didn't show his cards.
I've also seen Mohegan rule that you could take your 100 back and fold after you've been shown the cards, but that's because the floor there sucks.

Would not call what villain did an angle.

But seriously this so much.

No idea if you got angled or not but the situation is pretty clear. Verbal is binding and he announced all-in before moving chips.

The bet is all-in and you called.

This is why i dont wear headphones, pay attention to the game especially when your in the hand.

He verbalized allin, dealer was about to put the allin button, you got too horny at the price and called too fast without paying attention. You’re the only one to blame.

ban OP

fold pre

Clearly good lesson on ditching headphones and paying attention.

But more interesting, is I get that his flop bet is small, but why are we raising? What worse calls, what better folds?

As others said, why are you opening to 40 in a 1/3 game? That very unstandard. Not sure what you were trying to do with the raise on the flop. Almost no King is folding and everything you beat is.

If you have to wear headphones or listen to something other than what is going on around you, you're going to have to start clarifying the action to you to avoid getting in these situations. The villain pegged you as a complete noob by raising 40 pf and decided to see if he could get you to bite.

This is Texas and the game always plays bigger, more like 2/5 5/5. 25/30 is very standard raise and I’m likely going 4-5 ways if I bet just 25.

I was pretty tilted and made multiple bad decisions even to make it to the river. I’ve also seen it called both ways at this club depending on the floor where the hero has to relinquish the calling stack and not lose all of his chips. I am also the very generous side of the spectrum and have given the the hero the benefit in these sorts of situations when I’m on the other side.

I’ll just need to chalk it up as a bad play by me all around, learn from it and move on. It will likely change me as far as being generous in future situations.

Assuming OP believes your last sentence OP would do this so they could fold on any bet on turn or river as OP is afraid of a bluff driving them from their hand.