Tried to trap whale but failed, terrible?

Is whale not calling a 3!? If he is opening light, the 3! won't seem that strong.

Given what he called with in the HH, I think the flat pre is inexcusable.

Given that you called him mostly passive, I think the x/jam plan OTF is also bad. Start making up for lost value.

AP, good value bet OTT, now do it again OTR.

3bet to any reasonable amount pre and postflop becomes easy game.

As played, the read indicates he would bluff with missed draws so you could check call river to induce.

bet/fold

3bet preflop. I have no idea why we would want to flat OOP from the blinds.

Seems like a totally unnecessary slowplay. What's the logic behind the preflop slowplay?

Why in the world are we not 3betting when this guy is obviously calling 100% of hands he's raising? I'd go $120 to setup a ~PSB on any flop (expecting to get action if he has any piece).

As played, I don't mind the flop plan.

Obviously everything has gone wrong to the turn but we can still correct all of it thanks to the SPR being ~4. So I just PSB the turn to setup a river jam. Our turn bet was too small, imo (missing huge whale value now while leaving too big a jam for the river).

Checking the river to induce probably not a horrible idea at this point. But I never get here this way against this guy: he chases anything for any price on early streets which means we should mostly be shoveling in as much money as possible on early streets. Heck, there's even a decent argument for a preflop jam against this guy.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Yes, terrible.

You know how you beat whales with 100% VPIP?

You wait til you have good hands and then bet the hell out of them.

How do people who post here still not understand this?

Go home Banana, you're drunk.

Flatting pre caused you to be lost in the hand.

This guy is not a "whale". Whales aren't mostly passive who limp every hand. Whales go broke with bottom pair for like 10 buy-in's in a row. This guy's just a passive fish.

Definitely 3bet preflop but against this sizing just go to 3x. Your opponent won't notice a thing and will call.

I don't hate the flop, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

I'd go a little larger on the turn. Don't expect the passive player to bet the river for you but do expect him to call with his Tx or curious Ace of Spades or whatever else he happens to have.

Result:

What hand does V have that open to $40 pre and miss a draw on this run-out?

56cc?

What Garick wrote.

wait
why didnt you 3b the whale lol

He will put his whole stack in to a x/raise with JTo on this folp. Thats why. I felt a lot of his range folds to the 3-bet (maybe not JTo specifically) but his range pre here for 40 is about 50% ATC and the 3bet just looks too strong. I thought letting him hit 2nd pair would be more +EV.

If you 3-bet to 110 there's a very high likelyhood he calls with 76o

What was the point in posting the hand, did you have a question about the way you played it? What was you're question about it?

This hand should be transferred to the beginners forum. Llsnl is an upper advanced beginners/intermediate forum.

tthricainec/

He called a 3-bet in a previous hand with J3s and you are afraid that too much of his range will fold if you three bet here? Does not compute.

dont really care as played, but with your stack and his sizing just ship it pre. Maniac didnt raise 40 to fold for 300 more. By 'trapping' all you're doing is repping the nuts at some point postflop when the money gets there, and do we really want to be repping sets and flushes with KK?

120 pre downbet flop shove all turns if no ace on board. How much more of a layup do you want?

am beginning to think this is a parody account too

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Btw, it's sad that google is blurring this image because it's flagging it as explicit.