J9s with 60BB

J9s with 60BB

Blinds 50$cent / 1.50$ 8handed

MP opens to 5$ and CO calls like me also with J9 in hearts on the button 60BB / both villains are 150BB deep

Pot = 17$ and Flop comes T83 and 2 hearts

MP bets 6$, CO raises to 18$, Hero???

So 2 questions: Is the preflop call already to loose with only 60 BB and do I have there any other option than to push?

MP was a strong player and CO seemed to me a bit funny guy tho is able to raise here on the flop with air

12 July 2024 at 02:53 PM
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by Legendu k

do I have there any other option than to push?

At 60bb, after calling 10bb preflop, why would you want another option? This is fist pump jam! There's not too many better boards for your exact hand, right? This is why we called preflop, right?

I would shove.


Given the reads, this is a fold pf. You need someone that is going to stack off a pair against your made hand. The strong player isn't going to do that and the guy with air is going to give up under any pressure.

Flop really depends on your circumstances. If you are playing a strong short stack strategy, it is an easy jam. As said above, this is what you wanted. You're just going to reload. However extremely few people play a strong short stack strategy. More likely, this is your only money and losing it means you're done for the day. Otherwise, you would have topped off. If it is, then this is a fold because somebody has a hand better than yours. If the CO is semibluffing, their FD is better than yours.

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As played, just jam flop. You likely have a lot of equity, possibly even ahead. Mainly I worry about nut flush draws. You may even get MP to fold a hand that is currently ahead and get CO to fold air (which also may currently be ahead).

Vs the 3.3x open, easy fold preflop, especially if there is rake.


Yes, fold pre, although high SC/S1g i hate way less than low ones in mw pots. j9s is a much more playable hand than 76s imo, so i wouldnt hate it 100 BBs deep anyway, but CERTAINLY not against stronger/bluffier opponents. If you said “fish raises, orher fish calls, im 100 BBs deep” yeah sure mix it up.

With a bet and raise otf you have not a ton of FE with a jam OTF (you have some based on reads but people dont tend to raise/fold often) so you wanna keep it 3 ways and call. if a heart peels on the turn and its checked to me, id just rip it either there or otr as a bluff, because the cold call looks like a draw. Also youll never fold out the NFD so then you can get into a situation where ace high sees the river and wins against you all in.

I dont hate a jam but i think this is everyones way too liberal answer to how to play draws, and it shows in the player pool, to a point that i exploitatively call overbet jams otf in certain spots vs certain Vs with pretty marginal holdings (not this spot, facing a bet and raise though). The real answer is you oughta be mixing your strategy with draws a good bit. The player pool tends to always fastplay or always slowplay them and Vs tend to be very easy to play against because of that. And id way rather have the NFD for a jam here and a non nut fd or the 9 for a call.


with your stack size the best strat is to fold 90% of your hands vs a raise and 3b the rest to shove the flop. do a lot of LRRing too with the goal of potting the flop all in.


Fold pre - short stacked play premiums aggressively. Calling w/ J9s is neither premium nor aggressive.

You flopped essentially the stone nuts for your hand. Put all of your chips in the middle.

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