Triple barrel with straight flush draw

If you raise flop, I think you should go much bigger.

The turn is a really bad card but I don’t mind continuing to bet with this hand.

River it’s time to give up. I think Villain folds almost all of his single pair hands on the turn. He also folds his draws - an OMC is not calling a big bet with a draw on a paired board. You are going to run into a full house here a lot.

Even if V somehow is hanging on with AK here, he may not fold the river since all of the big draws missed.

It gets lost because you didn't include pot sizes by street, but it's important to note that this passive OMC's flop bet is an overbet, and into 3 people. The worst hand an OMC has on the flop is ~AK.

Raise flop is fine with your hand. He will not fold often if ever though

Turn bet is really only representing KT, T7. The T did not improve many hands that naturally x/r flop (like yours)

River is a give up for me

In general I think the exploit vs OMCs is to crack their TP+ and get paid, not try to get them off it

Another thing: if you had flopped 2p+ in a limped pot on a wet board, would you really x/r? Most would just lead, so your hand looks even more like a draw

Yeh, pot is $20 on flop and V bets $35 ... a bunch of OMC types don't understand pot odds and will overbet way too much in limped pots, but without reads I just call flop and x/f turn. gg.

As played on river you 100% aren't supposed to bluff this combo. you block lots (AdJd/Ad8d/Jd8d are there) of the good draws. Maybe V plays Jd8d this way, but probably doesn't bet river when you check.

Obviously very player dependent. In a vacuum I guess maybe you rep T7 and KT? The problem is the board pair is a flush card like Kh Th 7c Ts instead of Kh Tc 7h Ts... so your pair+FD didn't improve to trips. I had a hand like this the other day where I had Jc Js OOP vs a straightforward passive guy and the flop came Kc Qc Tc and I just played it as a check call check call check fold when I whiffed. I wanted to check raise but thought I just didn't have enough fold equity.

My logic when playing was as follows: I want to be able to take this line with my nutted hands (three combos of 77, nine combos of KT), and the straight flush combo draw seems like the best candidate for the tripple barrel bluff. It gives me QdJd (granted this is probably not a 100% check pre), Qd9d, Jd9d, maybe AdJd.
(First note, seems we barely have 4 bluff combos here, not ideal. FiveHighFlush is probably right and I need to call with top two pairs on the flop)

On the flop I admit I didn't realize V went for the overbet, but as you say I don't think he's thinking about the pot size when betting. I'm curious about your suggestion to raise even bigger on the flop Dan, is the idea that we only keep top two pairs and sets in, all of which we beat if we hit either draw on the later streets?

I bet 200 to prepare the jam on the turn, if I consider it an option to give up I think I'd give up here, as knowing the V he'd bet ~60 on this street with value.

On the river one straight gets there which gives me even more confidence to go for it, but even on a brick I still shove.

What happened:

Regarding V's hand:

Regarding the flop sizing, the idea behind raising bigger is that when we have a value hand (KT, 77, maybe K7) we want to get max value from the top of Villain's range and his big draws. And when we have a draw ourselves, we want to maximize fold equity. So either way, it makes sense to go big. When we make what is essentially a min-raise, we don't put any pressure on Villain and there is no fold equity.

When we're out of position especially, I don't think we ever want to use this juicer raise sizing. It just creates a great spot for Villain where he has an easy call and gets to play in position against our hand which is somewhat face up (we are almost always going to have a nut hand or a big draw when we checkraise multiway).

I think the line is perfectly fine, but against this V, im not firing on the river.

OMCs are some of the easiest players to read in the game, they dont ever bluff and they very rarely semibluff, so his flop bet is almost certainly a pair/2pair/set.

When you raised and he called, id say its pretty likely he has Kx+. Its possible he callee with a hand like JT but i kinda doubt it

On the turn I dont think you need to go this big. Pot is like $170, id anywhere from 75 to 150. The pairing card tends to be a card we want to bet smaller. You are targeting Kx to make a nitty fold, and although generally I dont try and bluff people off top pair, i think vs this V on this turn you probably can.

Once he called, he has KT 77 a huge amount of the time, and he would call turn with Tx, but he doesnt get to the turn with Tx very often, so I think its a give up on the river, even though you can bluff him off of some of his range.

Grunch:

PRE - I think Q9s is good enough to open for a raise to punish the limpers and get heads up with someone, probably your main V. I think $35-$40 should get it done.

FLOP - I would usually like the check raise, if he bet smaller, like less than 1/3 pot. But the raise size needs to be much bigger, at least 6x his bet, so $210, if not $250.

Not sure what to make of it here, when he over-bets into three opponents. Doesn't seem like a line he'd take with thin value. Not sure I'd feel great bloating the pot OOP against this guy, with two more opponents still to act, even with a decent combo draw.

I'd probably just call and keep the pot small until we improve.

TURN - after we check raise small, we didn't narrow V's range at all, so that T might hit him. I think I'd prefer to bet small, to rep a strong hand that wants loose calls, and save some ammo for the river.

Over-betting is basically just repping boats, which he likely blocks, at least partially. He has a lot of Kx and Tx in his range getting to the turn.

RIVER - I think a jam will get a lot of V's to fold all their missed draws, a lot of their Kx, and maybe even some Tx, but this V probably folded a lot of those hands on earlier streets. He's left with really strong hands here.

I think we could probably bet smaller to fold out all his missed draws that beat us, and some weak Kx. Maybe just bet $300.