TP with flush draw
3-5 NL, $10 straddle utg, 9 handed
Effective stacks $1045
Loose player limps.
H in early position raised to $45 (standard) with KcQc.
Button raises to $110. V is LAGish.
Heads up. ($230). Flop:
Jc 8c 4d
H checks.
V bets $80.
H calls.
($390) Turn Qs
H ???
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With a LAGish V, I like letting him keep the lead here. If it checks through, it's not the end of the world. We just have TPGK and our draw isn't to the nuts (though there's probably not much AcXc in his range since he jant have J-Kc)
If he checks, I'm betting river, improved or not. If he bets, I'm usually calling. If our pair that went with our FD were lower, I might turn our hand into a semi-bluff if his bet seemed week, but with he SDV we have, I don't see the need.
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Agree with check call.
In the moment I perceived his flop bet as weak and thought he might check behind on the turn. I didn’t want AK to get a free card, but in retrospect it’s only non-club Aces that I don’t want to hit the river. So I agree my turn play was a mistake.
Turn:
H bets $150.
V shoves.
H ?
c
We’re never ahead and could be in good shape. I think I fold. Bet fold is a disaster with this hand.
This looks like JJ+/AQ. Even if we give him all the AQ combos, we're only at 26% equity. Adding in a couple combos of FDs (say AcTc, QcTc) only takes us to 27%. We need 34.7%, so there has to be some pure spazz in his range to make this a call, which seems unlikely.
x/c turn. Donking is bad. He can have or represent sets JJ/QQ and overpairs KK/AA.
Preflop and flop are standard, nothing to say here.
Turn just check-call. You can expect a double barrel a lot, yes sometimes he'll have AA/KK/AQ or better (and such is life with KQ when you hit top pair) but he can easily continue with AK particularly with a gutshot. You still have a medium strength hand with a draw. No need to get fancy, just check it.
No reason to lead this turn -- the Q is much better for his range, as he likely has all of the AQ and you really shouldn't. You also still run into AA, KK, QQ, JJ, and even 88 and T9s from a LAG. Plus, if you lead and he folds a hand that would have bluffed (67s, 97s, etc.) it's a disaster. If you read the $80 flop bet as weakness (I don't necessarily think that it is) I would be much more likely to checkraise instead of calling flop and leading turn -- his most likely "weak hand" on the flop, AK, is going to barrel this Q a lot anyway.
As played, he could still have a bluff like ATcc, but I would assume your only live out is likely a club, so it just becomes a math problem of whether you have the odds to improve.
I called the turn shove.
He had AhQh.
The river was a brick.
Get out of habits like these. It's a 3bet pot, the in position 3bettor is going to cbet small a LOT. It might be weak, it might be strong.
Look, if you check-called the turn you might well have ended up losing all your money to this exact hand anyhow (which is going to happen sometimes when you call a 3bet with KQ; you're often dominated). But you'd have been far more likely to end up with an inflated pot against AK or missed clubs or whatever.
OP took the "don't post results for 24 hours" suggestion to heart!