Bluff raise river 9Ts
Villain older fellow but seems ok i guess. $500 eff
5 handed 1/3
Hero co open T9cc to $10, Bu (loose) calls, BB villain calls
FLOP ($31)
KJ5dd
xxx - maybe i should bet but with no bdfd and Bu stickiness i just decided to check
TURN ($31)
8x
Bb bets $10, hero callls, fold
now that i’m typing this out i should prob fold? only hand i feel like i can bluff is Jx, Ax -
RIVER ($51)
Jx
Villain bets $25 , i raise to $100
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I guess it's fine. You have no diamond. You'd play a jack this way. So I guess gto will bluff here
Bit if he's a station then obviously pointless
Turn call is fine fwiw
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He’s calling you
Maybe 150ish could be effective w/reads
I think the flop and turn plays are fine.
I think your bluff sizing might be problematic... If you are aiming to fold out something like missed diamonds or 8x that is trying to showdown for cheap, a smaller bluff would be just as effective. I don't think that 1/3 players are folding a decent K here for $100 though.
I would of bluffed the turn when you had equity, otherwise you're just playing a guessing game (pressing buttons) that he doesn't have a jack.
Preflop and flop are standard.
Turn is definitely not a fold.
You might even bluff raise, although, with only 6 clean outs, your equity when called is a bit thin.
Calling seems fine anyway.
River, I'd rather bluff when checked to. It's true that you would play a J the same way, but a J is also definitely in V's range, plus he may not fold a K.
On the other hand, if V takes this line with a busted fd, then otr he's bluffing with the best hand fairly often, so your raise will get through.
Overall, I do not hate it, but I guess that, especially at 1/3, you don't necessarily have to play so high variance to make a profit.
Preflop and flop are standard.
Turn is definitely not a fold.
You might even bluff raise, although, with only 6 clean outs, your equity when called is a bit thin.
Calling seems fine anyway...
Why is checking flop standard? We opened, board has 2 broadway and two suits. Aren't we supposed to connect with this? Yes, BU is stated to be loose and sticky; I'm not saying we need to triple barrel this, but cbetting 2/3 seems the norm, I thought. Though 1/3 may be more appropriate MW, if we're cbetting at all.
Are we x-ing flop to protect our x-range? To not get blown off our gutshot?
Aside, we've reads on BU. Do we have any on V? (Oops, overlooked "older fellow, seems OK". Definitely folding then.)
Folding river is my default w/o reads V has a river b/f button.
I go bigger pre, and I usually would bet this flop. I agree with Playbig that the time to bluff raise is the turn. I give up on river.
seems weird to raise turn on 8x after i x flop multiway no? 88 im repping? maybe slow played KK?? didn’t seem good
seems weird to raise turn on 8x after i x flop multiway no? 88 im repping? maybe slow played KK?? didn’t seem good
It's a semi bluff after we picked up equity with an OESD. We can't win unless we hit our straight, and we do represent kings like you said but also two pair and slow played sets, even AK if he's leading out with a smaller king but it's not really about what we have it's more about what they have. He only bet 10 into 30 so he's probably just taking a stab at it so it does look like we have FE and I'm not concerned about the button after he also checked back the flop.
Calling is also fine, but why would you consider folding? We have the odds to call.
cosine to this - river sizing way too small to get dumb stuff to fold still from a bad player.
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You pick up equity on the turn 8 so not sure how folding turn makes any sense.
and I dont have time to remember/figure out how to double quote in 1 post but partyboi2000 or whoever posted after Timmay28 suggests swinging on the turn which i agree with two after checking back flop given PF. If anything its PSB on turn and overbet river.
sorry - Playbig2000
wasnt making fun of your name i just couldnt remember it & partyboi2000 was the first thing that came to my mind and now i wish it was my screen name.
Why is checking flop standard? We opened, board has 2 broadway and two suits. Aren't we supposed to connect with this? Yes, BU is stated to be loose and sticky; I'm not saying we need to triple barrel this, but cbetting 2/3 seems the norm, I thought. Though 1/3 may be more appropriate MW, if we're cbetting at all.
Are we x-ing flop to protect our x-range? To not get blown off our gutshot?
This flop is good for our range but not for our specific hand. Three way, with a loose player otb, I think we are getting called by a bunch of "trash" hands which are still ahead of ours. Also, the only card we are really happy to see on later streets is a Q (non d), and an 8 (also non d) if we aim to play aggressively.
Just my two cents; don't know what a solver would do.