AT OOP vs limpers
5/5
~$400 deep
MP – Rec player, 50-year-old Latino guy, plays pretty actively.
BU – Unknown
BB – Solid pro
MP limps, BU calls, SB(Hero) A♣T♦ raises to $40, BU calls
Flop($90) Q♣ T♥ 9♥
x Hero x
Turn($90) 9♦
Hero x, BU bets $60, Hero calls
River($210) K♠
Hero x, BU bets $150, Hero folds
I have a question about the flop/turn play.
7 Replies
Why not c-bet? I would. Otherwise we let him control the narrative.
Runout sucks, so folding river is fine.
I would check my option pre, this isn’t the hand I want to go to battle with oop.
I think the hand is well played post. Can probe turn small too.
Obviously a very ugly flop. On one hand we want to pot control vs a wide range with equity, on the other hand we have the range advantage so maybe we want to keep the pressure on. As played I agree it's a fold.
5/5
~$400 deep
MP – Rec player, 50-year-old Latino guy, plays pretty actively.
BU – Unknown
BB – Solid pro
MP limps, BU calls, SB(Hero) A♣:T♦: raises to $40, BU calls
Flop($90) Q♣: T♥ 9♥
x Hero x
Turn($90) 9♦:
Hero x, BU bets $60, Hero calls
River($210) K♠:
Hero x, BU bets $150, Hero folds
I have a question about the flop/turn play.
Pre looks fine. Flop looks fine. I'd come out and bet turn for 1/3-40% pot.
As played, fold river. Just a lousy runout.
It's borderline, but limp preflop is probably better.
5/5
~$400 deep
MP – Rec player, 50-year-old Latino guy, plays pretty actively.
BU – Unknown
BB – Solid pro
MP limps, BU calls, SB(Hero) A♣T♦ raises to $40, BU calls
Flop($90) Q♣ T♥ 9♥
x Hero x
Turn($90) 9♦
Hero x, BU bets $60, Hero calls
River($210) K♠
Hero x, BU bets $150, Hero folds
I have a question about the flop/turn play.
I'm always squeezing here and never limping.
For sure checking (with the intention of calling) on this flop and turn is correct with your hand. His turn bet reeks of BS. What value/bluff hands does he have here that don't bet the flop? Exactly 9x is all that comes to mind, or perhaps Tx for thinner value. The turn does not bring a flush draw either, so he can't have decided to start semi-bluffing with that either.
I'm somewhat tempted to call the river because I don't think he is checking back flop with Jx and the K is a great card for him to apply more pressure to your ostensibly capped range. On the other hand, if he's a thinking player, he might be hesitant because he will know that your check-calling range on the turn probably has many overcard combos, including Kx.
You're certainly beating random bluffs but ultimately this hand is probably too far down your middle-strength hands to seriously consider calling, especially as it's hard to find bluffs that bet the turn but don't bet the flop.
Another thing to consider is the hands with which you protect your flop checking range on this board - which in this case is perhaps your worst Qx and JJ. JJ makes a straight on the river, which only leaves your weakest Qx to call down with facing aggression. As long as you're correctly balanced you should have enough combos to face any aggression from villain, especially as ranges are wider from the turn onwards, as the flop checked through. AT would be the next combo to use, but I don't think that's necessary here.
Ultimately a somewhat reluctant fold.
