SC OOP vs LAG crusher

idk the best players in my room all play deep and raise pf this wide. i think its a function of knowing you are better than your opponents and also having experience playing a wide range.

ive noticed that when i go through a bad run and play nitty pf that my game deteriorates significantly because im confused and dont know how react. i doubt thats coincidence. i think its because you when play nitty pf you dont have many hands to determine how others are playing against you. if you play wide pf you get a better sense of how people are reacting you to your bets/checks etc.

id bet the flop with whatever amount you bet AK with.

So my takeaways are

1. dont go bananas here because he has some higher flushes like QJhh AXhh and I just get wrecked vs those

and

2. Vs range has a lot of hands in it that cant call a x/r on this flop like 7h7x Tx Kx and def cant call a jam when the flush comes in OTT

so best play it more defensively and seek smaller value over multiple streets like x/call flop lead turn small type thing

Don't understand the question.

The problem is we are not deep at all. After hero raises to $30 the SPR will be anywhere from 6.8x (at best, assuming no 3bet pre) to 3.7x if BTN SB and BB tag along. That is not an area where 98s performs well. OP never provided SB or BB stack sizes either so it could be even worse than portrayed if they’re shorter.

No I think you should be betting the flop two thirds sizing so I wouldn't agree with that. That's good you'd play ak etc

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we talk about usually checking range oop when its high spr and button has a tighter range than the opener. if you had to guesstimate what % of hands btn is going to play what would it be?

ignore the people saying 90% in this thread, but i think its going to be any pair, any suited hand, offsuit connectors, anything broadway, and some random stuff (i gave him about 50% of hands - he plays higher, he straddled, he just reloaded so presumably stuck). you're actually a fairly large favorite vs this range on most boards and spr is much lower than most of the sims we look at bc u 5xed and u guys dont even start 100 straddles deep. so you're definitely going to cbet here. when i run that range (minus the top end that i assume gets 3b thru solver, it wants to cbet hj's entire range for 40%). i think its just important to realize the context here, usually when u raise and co or btn calls you, you have something like 20% of hands and they are flatting maybe 5-8%. here hes flatting something in the vicnity of 40+ imo. you're no longer at a disadvantage either equity wise or polarity wise (even if he has 2pair more often than you, it's going to be a smaller percentage of his overall range bc hes so wide and stuff like ak / aa is def the nuts here given spr) so you get to do a lot more betting. spr is a thing too but i think understanding the btn straddle is going to be super wide pre and how that affects our strat is really the most important variable of the hand

you want ip to jam the flop bc u think oop has a good hand. what i'm asking is do you think if we don't get value from that segment of his range on the flop does he open fold them on the turn? i obviously don't think you think he does that, but my point is we can still get value from those hands on later streets

Not sure what you mean by "that segment". I'm guessing you're talking about some segment of hero's range that would fold to the 3B jam, and asking what that segment does after x/r'ing the flop, if BTN just flat calls, rather than 3B'ing.

Hero is going to have some give-ups on the turn, and some barrels. If hero has a hand that is just going to give up and check-fold the turn if V bets, V isn't losing any value by 3B'ing, but he is letting hero realize more of his equity for a lower price.

BTN's 3B is only losing value from the sliver of hero's range that x/r's flop, and then folds to a 3B-jam, but otherwise jams or check-calls the turn, assuming V bets when hero checks.

What part of hero's x/r range would have barreled the turn if BTN calls, but folds if BTN 3B's? I would think it's not a very big part of hero's range, on such a wet board, when BTN is going to have a ton of draws, and only a very small number of really strong hands.

The board texture matters. Any heart, and every card from 7 to an ace potentially completes a draw for someone, and could potentially shut down the action. That's 29 cards, well over half the deck.

So, in order for a flop 3B to lose value, hero has to have a hand that is worse than 66, that is going to fold to the 3B, but still barrel on most turns, or check-call on most turns, when BTN flat calls the flop x/r.

There just wouldn't seem to be that many hands that are strong enough to raise pre, and x/r this flop, and want to continue putting money on later streets, even after BTN calls, that are worse than bottom set, and won't be better than bottom set on the turn, or by the river.

If you're asking what hero does on the turn with the better hands in his range, the ones that are worse than 66, but still strong enough to call off if BTN 3B-jams, if BTN just flat calls the flop x/r, rather than 3B'ing, I would think they sometimes jam turn, but not always, depending on what the turn card is. This is why I prefer to just get the money in on the flop.

Like, say hero has AA no heart, or AK no heart, or even KT, and the turn completes a draw - is hero just going to jam? What does hero do with KK/TT? What does BTN do with bottom set if hero jams on a draw-completing card, or another A?

Why give hero the opportunity to see another card that might improve him to the best hand, but also possibly get away from a worse hand on a bad turn? I just don't see the point in flat-calling pre with a middling pair, in order to set-mine, flopping a set on this wet board, and not fast-playing it when hero x/r's.