CO 99s 1-3 the old man table
So I sit down at this table and I kid you not everyone except for one younger 30 something guy in a hoodie is easily over 60 yo. White males hat wearing veterans. Table is a snooze fest so far except the guy in a hoodie trying to start action with the straddles and loosely playing his button. It's for the most part fold around or community pot call. I've been waiting on a table change for at least an hour. Finally I get called for a table change and I'm playing my last hand there in the CO with 99sc.
nit1 375$, nit2 450$, hero 570$, hoodie 345$
Hoodie V is on button with a 15$ straddle and there's two callers already from MP and HJ. I decide this is a good time to limp because hoodie guy has raised almost every single button straddle since he started doing them. Of course he does bet and goes 45$, but here's the curious thing both the MP and the HJ call they haven't played many pre raised hands but have called straddles with not much. Also with big pocket pairs they usually lead out for around 30 to 45$ and are either getting to show down without much action or just showing their hands after betting for value with no callers. I had planned on 3! him to 3.5x until I saw this happen at a pretty tight table of nit playing older guys. I want to at least see a flop so I call.
($184 pot)Flop 10H, 2C, 2S
quick x, quick x, (watched both the older guys watching the board come out before looking at it myself and didn't have much if any interest), Hero thinks for a bit stabs for 40$
calls around red alert in action here two nits and an original aggressor who is probably also on alert.
($344 pot)turn 2d
x, x, x, button quickly fumbles in $70 and re-organizes his bet to look neat
call call, ($554 pot) hero?
My thinking here is either fold or to come back large around half my remaining stack, but I cant really put the nits on much more then AK if they have AA KK QQ or JJ obviously done here. The thing is I didn't see either of them raise for value and they both thought about even calling it wasn't a snap call. Plan would be if I get jammed here by either nit I'm folding, if simply called and no A or K comes on river i'll get it all in. I can't put button on very much because he just is not very good just splashy (has bluffed with complete trash and got smoked a few times).
2 Replies
Do they know it's your last hand? If not, I still 3bet pre pretty big to get the nits out and heads up w/ btn or he folds, too, and you win a nice pot. Edit: if you have a solid image.
If so, flat is good because nits might be "trapping" pre with your call. However, still might not be a bad idea to 3bet anyway.
If you are going to bother to stab, go larger. They are calling $40 w/ anything and you are now in no-man's land. I fold the river and go to my new table w/o even waiting to see what they have. You can't beat a T.
IDK man, 99 is in the range of hands that most benefits from a raise preflop while not obviously benefiting from a l/rr or l/c line. Just about any hand better or worse than this would be a better choice. This is all before asking whether a limp range is even worth it.
I think it's safe to assume donking with nut relative position in a multiway pot is a bad idea in almost all spots. T22r with 2 nits scheduled to act between you and the PFR certainly doesn't seem like an exception.
I don't think you can make a terrible decision OTT. You're almost never winning at showdown, but you almost never need to be at this price. I think I'd rather fold and buy myself something nice with the $70--perhaps a new crisp pair of upper-mid quality jeans.
ETA: I see now that you want to raise the turn. Yeah, don't do that.
