Jam and jam some more? JTh 4/8 live

edit for clarity-HU I think this is an easy jam, the unknown BB is what let me to question.

Slam dunk 3bet. The only hand villain should have that beats you is KhQh, and I discount that significantly because there is a cold caller who likely has one of those two cards. If villain 4bets you can consider what to do on the river, but for the time being I think your hand is in very good shape.

+1. Btn’s hand is probably pocket aces or kings, bb could even have a low flush. 3bet and see what happens. Call down if 4bet.

The BB has not shown aggression on any street—and seems slightly drunk, you said. He could have a smaller flush or two pair or one pair + the King or Queen of hearts or maybe a gut-shot straight draw with the Queen of hearts. I see no reason to fear him.

Button likely has AK, possibly with the King of hearts, or maybe AA or KK as someone else mentioned. KhQh is the only combo that you need to be worried about from him, and I'm not sure he 3-bets preflop with that hand. There are many more combos of AK/KK with the King of hearts that make him think he has the effective nuts.

I would not stop raising on the turn. With a blank on the river, I would bet-call. With a 4th heart or a pair on the river, I would check-call. With exactly an Ace or King on the river, I might consider a check-fold.

yeah in real time I discounted KK because no flop 3 bet, and OTT I thought AA, AxK ♥or KQ ♥ after he raised, in retrospect BB probably had K♥ but I was too worried about him.

I should have 3 bet/called and c/c river.

I called raise and c/c the river. (BB folded to river bet by BTN)

He had AA, I think he may have capped the turn so I missed 2 bets. Hell the BB might have come along if he has the K or baby flush.

This guy is capable of that play. He 3 bet me OTB with KTs previously.

OK, but let's talk about monsters under the bed.

Years ago when I was playing Limit Omaha Hi-Low, I'd go into check-call mode with the top full house after one raise. Example: The board is KT36T, I'd bet the river with KKxx, someone would raise, and I would just call, fearing they had quads. Time after time they were raising me with something less than quads, and I was leaving money on the table. I finally figured out that if only one combo beat me, I shouldn't shut down after just one raise. I was being overly fearful of that one combo—that was seeing monsters under the bed.

So I forced myself to reraise in those situations. It was hard to do at first, and some small percentage of the time, I'm going to be wrong and look like an idiot. But reraising is the right play.

A few nights ago, playing $6/$12 Limit Hold'em, I made a flush on the river with Qd9d with the Ad on the board. So I had the second nuts. I bet and was raised by the laggiest player at the table. I reraised him—knowing full well that he could have the nuts but probably didn't. He immediately reacted in a way that made it clear he wished he hadn't raised, but he also made a reluctant call. He never showed. I gave him credit for having a smaller flush, though he might've made an ambitious value-raise with two pair, or he might've tried to use the scare card (a third diamond) to turn one pair into a bluff. My point is that his range of raising hands in this spot is much, much wider than just the nuts.

In your hand, the presence of the BB does add a wrinkle, especially when he cold-calls two bets on the turn. That should give one pause—and I did see your reply in the thread about a fourth club hitting the river in a massively multiway pot. I still feel that BB's lack of aggression throughout the hand is an indication that he's not that strong. But it's easy to say this as an armchair quarterback.

Poker is a game of limited information. In the heat of the moment, we make assumptions and reads and consider probabilities and similar situations we've encountered, and we make the best decisions we can. Sometimes we're wrong; that's just part of the game.

I agree with everything agamblerthen said in response. I’ll add just one point: if this guy is capable of 3betting PF with KTs, he is probably capable of raising the turn without the nut flush (or any flush).