K9ss big pot.

I’d check the flop with a backdoor flush draw and gut shot on a paired board with 7 players.

As played I’d bet the river expecting to lose a significant amount of the time. It’s unlikely you’ll win checking.

both flop and turn seem kind of thin. yeah you can give yourself a different way to win on the turn but against four players I just check.

on the river once it’s down to two opponents on a board where we will have a million strong hands this seems like a decent bluff candidate, although even then holding spades is not great.

I will say adding onto the flop I think that it wouldn’t necessarily be crazy to bet it, but I do think that in general it just puts us in so many more tricky situations when we get x/r and the value to having last position where we raised pf somewhat comes in being able to check back on these sorts of flops. I almost want to have a stronger draw or a weaker draw here. The stronger draws are just plain bets for value against the field and the weaker draws work more safely as a bluff. Perhaps K9 without the flush draw would actually be a better bet here in my thinking than with it.

Maybe I’m completely wrong about that but that’s my gut reaction to this hand.

I’m fine with the flop bet especially against people who wait for the turn. But I’d check back turn here do as to realize equity cheaply. Bet river either way

I found this hand interesting because many of the decisions (in my mind) were close. Just calling pre wouldn't be a big mistake, don't think K8s is a raise. Flop and turn could go either way although it seems the prevailing sentiment would be checking at least one of those streets. As played river is an obvious bet.

As it played out, older lady folded immediately, unsure unknown thought for at least 30 seconds before calling with KTo.

In a super passive game the pre flop raise likely gets you a 4 card flop, I think this was a good spot to take it.

I bet the turn to try to fold out some of the players and improve my equity.

Have to bluff the river here I think.

+1

flop is fine, checking would be fine too

betting turn really really really bad, worse hands never fold and you get CRd frequently and have to call

as played yeah bet river and get her to fold small pairs or tx.

I'd restate this to say that the bigger the pot, the more we care about winning the pot as compared to winning more bets that are not yet in the pot. Put another way, the value of taking aggressive lines increases. Or put even simpler, don't slowplay in big pots.

But you need to balance this against the reality that we need to play more passively in multiway pots because the combined range of the field is very strong and the pot size will make winning without a showdown very rare.

Doing "whatever you can to win" big pots can cause you to burn a lot of bets trying to ram and jam your way through hopeless spots.

The problem is people who often wait will sometimes donk the turn and we no longer get the "free" card if we choose. They may donk if a perceptually scary card comes out. Some passive players play trips this way. I don't see any reason to put money into a MW pot if we need to make our hand to win. We don't have a high equity draw here. It's not like we are gonna clean up outs if we bet because nothing we want to fold will fold.