4/8 JJ OTB
8 handed standard 4/8 table.
2 limps to me OTB with JJ, I raise, BB calls, 2 calls.
Flop is A86r. BB checks, V donks, fold, I raise. BB folds, call.
Turn is a brick, check, I check.
River another brick. Whats my plan if he bets? If he checks?
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Why did you raise the flop and check back the turn? Your thought process there will inform what you should do on the river.
Why did you raise the flop and check back the turn? Your thought process there will inform what you should do on the river.
I take this line alot in these situations at 4/8(maybe incorrectly) when I have showdown value and want to get to the river cheap. I assume V has a weak ace but hoping he has a PP smaller than Jacks, or K8s or such-raising the flop generally makes them think I have strong Ace and they go into check/call mode.
If they are 2p or better they will 3! the flop and/or fire the turn and I can generally safely fold.
Since he checked the turn, his range has not narrowed anymore. Could still be a weak Ace or something like K8, 99, TT etc. I don't think I can bet based on this.
Based on this, what range is he betting the river? Checking?
I do not have read on this V, I have not played with him and this was early in the session.
Your goal here is to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. A free showdown raise isn't a great idea because we just end up shutting down their worse hands and their bluffs, and exposes you to either putting in too many bets against worse hands or, if you don't, then you're opening yourself up to folding to worse hands.
Against some passive villains this is basically a bluffcatcher and you might even be able to fold, especially on later streets.
I'd only consider raising flop here if I knew villain is the type of player who will only lead out with mediocre hands. But my plan would then be to bet the turn.
8 handed standard 4/8 table.
2 limps to me OTB with JJ, I raise, BB calls, 2 calls.
Flop is A86r. BB checks, V donks, fold, I raise. BB folds, call.
Turn is a brick, check, I check.
River another brick. Whats my plan if he bets? If he checks?
I don’t like raising the flop. You have only one person behind you and he’s pretty much going to either have good equity, have you crushed, or he completely whiffed.
Much better to proceed with a call and evaluate further action.
On the river… it looks like you’re trying to get to showdown so I mean if he bets it looks value-y, most likely an ace.
It’s a pretty small pot so I don’t mind a fold, but if he is at all capable of bluffing I would call.
in my experience at 4/8, some garbage 2 pair vs. my big pocket pair has cost me more $$$ than any other situation I can think of.
so the "bricks" aren't obvious bricks at this game.
To answer your question though...OTR sigh call / check is my answer. as played, this feels like A/rag from V and V most likely ain't folding to any bets.
i would just fold the flop without a read. its 4/8 and people are passive.
