4 8 fold the flop?
8 handed. Unknown but playing alot of hands limps UTG, one call, I raise in MP with KhQh, LP SB and terrible BB call. 5 to the flop, 5 BB.
Flop comes JJ9 one heart. SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, call, Getting 12-1 with 2 overs, a GS and BDFD I call. 2 more calls. 7 BB
Turn is a T completing the rainbow and bringing home my GS. SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, fold, I consider I could be looking at a FH I go for overcalls and call, 2 more calls. 11 BB
River is an 8 of diamonds. No flush. SB checks, BB checks, UTG now checks . I feel good about my nut straight and bet, SB call. BB now CR's. UTG immediately calls. wth is going on? I call, SB folds.
7 Replies
Raise the turn
raise the turn. this is not a good spot to go for overcalls. Jx isnt folding, 78 and Q8 arent folding, maybe even Qx isnt folding. obv call river.
folding flop would horrible
MUBSY ...lol
The flop is a raise a thousand times before it's a fold. It's rare that a 4-8 player donks his trips on the flop into the PFR.
The turn is a raise as most hands are going to call as many bets as it takes to chase.
You got the pre and river decisions correct.
UTG could have a J, but it's not likely enough that your hand would ever be a fold for one bet on the flop.
I agree with the others that you missed value by not raising the turn, but the call isn't a disaster as the raise would have been unlikely to fold out any players who could improve to beat you.
As played, the river was fine absent any player specific reads. BB could have been slowplaying a flopped or turned full house, but he also could be overvaluing the straight to the Queen that he just made. Make a note of which it is for the future. Either one is a bad play on his part.
Spoiler
BB had 88. UTG had J8o.
Pre is good.
I generally would not raise the flop, but I don't think it's horrible and it is a million times better than folding the flop. I agree that calling flop is best.
I would definitely raise the turn.
I don't think you win very often on the river; people usually donk one-card straights on this texture, so a raise will usually be a full house. But you're getting great odds and so I think it's worth calling one more bet.
