Maybe standard hand after preflop

Maybe standard hand after preflop

Steaming player raise Utg+1 6 handed, button call, I call, bb call. 4BB

Flop Jd5h2h

I check, crazy bb bets, utg+1 calls, button call, I raise, all call

Turn Qd 8BB

I bet

16 June 2024 at 09:14 AM
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What do you have?


lmao I have JT with T hearts


I usually fold that pre but rest is fine


I play it the same (including pf).


by ninefingershuffle k

I usually fold that pre but rest is fine

Twenty years ago folding JTo was pretty standard from an UTG raiser but it’s probably too tight in today’s game especially when someone is tilting.


Jto OOP call standard ?


by Montrealcorp k

Jto OOP call standard ?

I guess it's close, but I wouldn't call JTo from the small blind here. I would call JTo from the big blind or JTs from the SB.


Fold pre. Turn is quite annoying. I kind of just want to get to showdown now.


Preflop is definitely pretty loose, but I liked the dynamic of who the other people were in the hand and since it was borderline I chucked it in there.

Like what would we do with QJo? That’s probably a call for sure right


If either a super tight player or someone who can outplay me raises UTG I suppose I can make a good case for folding QJo from the BB. I see good players calling early position raises with junk routinely in LA. Aside from table gossip nobody knows for sure if the “good” players are actually winning players.

A seemingly solid “winning” player cracked my flopped set of Aces recently defending his BB with 25s recently in a heads-up pot.


bruce, you've twice suggested this is an EP open. It's UTG+1 in a 6 handed game, also known as the hijack.


by checkraisdraw k

Preflop is definitely pretty loose, but I liked the dynamic of who the other people were in the hand and since it was borderline I chucked it in there.

Like what would we do with QJo? That’s probably a call for sure right

I would fold QJo and KJo as well. Used to fold AJo and KQo but decided they're good enough in my usual game which has a lot of loose bad players.


by chillrob k

I would fold QJo and KJo as well. Used to fold AJo and KQo but decided they're good enough in my usual game which has a lot of loose bad players.

Would you change your mind if you thought that button was really bad? Or it’s just that we’re out of position against a hijack open?


by checkraisdraw k

Would you change your mind if you thought that button was really bad? Or it’s just that we’re out of position against a hijack open?

No, I wouldn't, although I'm not trying to say I know it's wrong. I've already loosened my hand requirements because almost everyone I play with is loose/bad, so AJ and KQ are no longer problem hands which are often dominated by the hand of the raiser. JT is still a problem hand in that making one pair is rarely going to win.
If it's suited then at least you have a better chance to make a hand strong enough to beat three other people.

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