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Good tag opens HJ, monkey three bets next in, sb calls, I four bet (not a cap) black JJ in the bb, all call.
Flop is JJKhh.
Sb checks, I check, tag bets, monkey raises, I call, tag calls.
Turn is 6x
I check, tag checks, monkey bets, I call, tag folds.
River is Qh and I donk
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I think I'd play every street differently.
I'd probably just 3-bet the flop and take it from there. (1) Two players have already shown aggression and you can still get action from hands that assume they are drawing live against even trips, if you have those. (2) By just calling, you put yourself in the situation you find yourself in where (a) check-raising a later street looks super super strong, and (b) you can't trap the monkey between you and the TAG. If the TAG bet and the monkey called, I think there is a stronger case for delaying until the turn where you can see if the monkey wakes up or trap them both for two big bets.
As played, I'd probably check/raise the turn with hopes that monkey goes bananas on the turn or river. And if I got dropped into this river, I like my odds that monkey will bet again.
Good tag opens HJ, monkey three bets next in, sb calls, I four bet (not a cap) black JJ in the bb, all call.
Flop is JJKhh.
Sb checks, I check, tag bets, monkey raises, I call, tag calls.
Turn is 6x
I check, tag checks, monkey bets, I call, tag folds.
River is Qh and I donk
You might want to read the book The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall and you'll see an argument for only calling the three bets with your jacks in the big blind:
You might want to read the book The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall and you'll see an argument for only calling the three bets with your jacks in the big blind:
The benefit of keeping our range wider and concealed is outweighed by getting at least one, if not two, additional small bets from three opponents. Even heads up, the EV of raising is greater than calling, so it cannot be particularly close four ways.