Value?

I think I'd play every street differently.

I'd probably just 3-bet the flop and take it from there. (1) Two players have already shown aggression and you can still get action from hands that assume they are drawing live against even trips, if you have those. (2) By just calling, you put yourself in the situation you find yourself in where (a) check-raising a later street looks super super strong, and (b) you can't trap the monkey between you and the TAG. If the TAG bet and the monkey called, I think there is a stronger case for delaying until the turn where you can see if the monkey wakes up or trap them both for two big bets.

As played, I'd probably check/raise the turn with hopes that monkey goes bananas on the turn or river. And if I got dropped into this river, I like my odds that monkey will bet again.

You might want to read the book The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall and you'll see an argument for only calling the three bets with your jacks in the big blind:

https://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Poker...

The benefit of keeping our range wider and concealed is outweighed by getting at least one, if not two, additional small bets from three opponents. Even heads up, the EV of raising is greater than calling, so it cannot be particularly close four ways.

I like the flop. you most likely have good read and table dynamic. just go for max exploitative. although if you dig deeper there a few things you can do w other hands to exploited this if you think regs will correctly overfold flop. Not sure how I feel about riv. I guess in game speed it ok either way.

As far as the river goes, either he has a king and that’s a massive scare card and he checks back. Or he has a draw that this card completed. I just felt like his play seemed more like a king.

I think you have to start by betting the flop. Your 4betting range should not have many hands with one jack in them and you can bet/3bet a lot, particularly since no one will put you on quads if you fast play. If others have a flush draw, you will often get to bet/3bet a big street if you bet/3bet flop. As played, I think calling 2 bets cold on the flop is superior to check/3betting (which looks absurdly strong), but it has to be with the intention of raising the turn.

As played donking the river is good, though you should never have gotten to the river this way. If he has AK (which I think is his most likely hand), he should not be betting this river because several of the most plausible hands that play the way you did on the flop and turn just pulled ahead of him.

Three opponents yes.

As for heads-up, if this was the only hand of poker you would ever play, you're probably right. Put as part of an overall strategy from the big blind when there is only one player in, that may not be the case. Again, see Newall's book for an explanation.

Hi mason,

I’ve read the book (I pretty much have them all 😀 ). But I agree with hard here four way it’s just too much money to pass up especially with the sb capped range.

I typically never three bet out of bb in a heads up situation but I think our robot overlords disagree with that.

In the land of GTO, 4 betting pre with JJ is better than just calling here by about 1/3 the value of the BB. That said, both calling and 4 betting are highly profitable.