Bike 40/80 - Kings Up

Given how the BB played the hand I don’t see how she can have a Two unless she thinks you are overly aggressive and will bet the river and she’s trapping you. Against good players I would most likely just call the check raise but three betting is okay. If she 4 bets what’s your plan?

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This is a really weird line on her part, but I'm having a tough time putting her on anything we beat that would call the 3-bet. Can anyone put her on a hand that would make sense here?

If not, I'd be interested in results.

I don't think anyone I would call "extremely aggressive" would ever just call the BB then check-call the flop and the turn HU.

I probably just call as well. Could she have just called preflop with AKs and picked up a flush draw? I would think she 3! with JJ & 88, and she could also have slowplayed AA.

Seems reasonable given from the description she’d probably raise with a 2 or AA at some point and would be very likely to x/r for value with a king.

The only thing I wonder is if she can find a fold with a king, which means we’d have to math out the ranges. Also what do we do here if we get four bet?

I like it. If 4bet, pay and take valuable notes.

What’s the likelihood of her bluff check raising the river? The way she played this hand makes very little sense to me.

Pocket deuces?

The most likely hand here is AK, and I think most players who wake up with AK here would have a lot of trouble folding for one more bet. Maybe some hand with a king that picked up a BDFD on the turn and is now playing top pair like the nuts. Then some bluffs, and the occasional slowplay with like 88 or or A2.

He bet the Jack high flop, bet again when 2 paired the board, And THEN when K hits the river you bet again. If you had a jack you wouldn't be betting river, yea maybe King hits you but if it doesn't its a great card too bluff. To me this line heads up looks like a bluff on river by hero. If she has air and thinks you're bluffing or weak?

If the villain thinks hero has air on the river why would she check raise on the river if she has a weak non Ace high hand?

Most extremely aggressive players would 3 bet AK preflop, or if not maybe check raise the flop.

I’m extremely aggressive but choose to play no three bets out of position pre here.

Maybe, but this kind of ends up being a no true Scotsman problem. Villain did not put in any aggression until river, so if our definition of "extremely aggressive" means plays raise or fold at every opportunity, villain is either having a seizure, or our priors are wrong (villain is not in fact "extremely aggressive" or OP has a different definition than you).

I can see myself playing AK like this against certain opponents.

I can see myself c/r flop some or donking River some, etc.

I like it. I wouldn’t fault just calling River and I really can’t see villain four betting worse

I was responding to chill rob btw. We both made similar points at the same time.

I think that's a mistake against most opponents.

Yeah I don’t disagree. GTO has three bets here. I chose not to because: 1) I’m lazy; 2) I play in a very small pool and really would prefer to keep my range here wide

Anyway, I imagine AK is fine as part of perceived range here, but I don't think it's enough that I want to 3 bet the river. Just call and learn more about her play.

Good discussion. Villain ended up calling with J8, which certainly made me reevaluate my priors. (I characterized her as “good” and “extremely aggressive” based on my prior experience playing with her and wanted to characterize her that way in this post because that was my perception of her at the time I played the hand.) I am genuinely unsure whether she realized that the 2 pairing might have counterfeited her hand.

If losing the maximum makes you aggressive she qualifies. I have no idea why she waited until the river to raise. There’s no guarantee that you will bet.

I agree that she butchered the hand. I assume she thought I was a monkey that would bet the river indiscriminately and call down fairly light.

Idk maybe she thought that you wouldn’t re-raise with a king and she beats your bluffs? Weird play by her though, just seems like a frustration raise OTR

Could she be bluffing? Relying on blockers when ranges have narrowed every street cuz a bet went in on each. Def a thing in NL and PLO but seems less so in lhe. shrug the lines get blurry sometimes? Adjust priors a little but not too much?

Edit: if she raise called the river I prolly not. I'm blurry.