T2
Tighter player opens mp, hj, co and sb call. I defend T2ss in BB five ways (a touch too loose).
Flop is Ts8h2d. I donk and everyone calls.
Turn is As. I bet, pre flop raiser raises, only sb calls and action back on me. Pot is 12.5 BB
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Call. I suppose I could make a case for reraising if the SB didn’t call the turn raise. The initial raiser probably would have raised the flop if he had AT, AA, or a flopped set.
Five way action closing the action I would also call preflop.
I’d c/r flop. As played I’d call turn and call one bet on rivers that don’t counterfeit you.
We don't have a flush draw, right?
+1 for check raising flop. On turn we can just call.
I prefer leading the flop. Check raising is more sexy but there’s no guarantee anyone will bet for you on a semi raggedy flop.
Yes we turned a flush draw.
Eh, flop checking through is a disaster and getting the pfr to freeze everyone else out is great. We block too pair.
Sorry for the double Ts. Turned a fd
I just don’t see this flop checking through 5 ways. People who cold call early position raises have lots of hands that will bet after the PFR checks (tons of Tx, some 8x, smaller pairs). And at least in my experience, people at the stakes you play tend to bet too often when checked to if anything.
Oh interesting. I definitely think that 3betting is closer considering your spade draw, but I’m happy to just donk the river when we improve and kind of evaluate where we’re at if the river bricks out. Maybe we can squeak out some extra value from an ace and a spade draw, but that’s really optimistic.
Pre, I love a T and hate a 2. YMMV.
I would check the flop 5 ways but like leading more the shorter the field or the lower rank of the top two flop cards. The 2 makes leading a bit better.
As played, I'd 3b turn and think it's unlikely to be close. SB's spade peels on the flop heavily involve either the As or a straight draw that could have jammed on its own 5ways.
AT/A8s/A2s but also A5s/A4sA3s closing the action. Never a set, and almost never T8s. MP has much more AK-AJ than AA/AT, as noted. So when we are behind, I think we'll have decent equity almost always.
Is kr turn better than b3b? Probably a little in this config with pfr on our immediate left and a big field between us and the turn hitting his calling range pretty well. Trapping the field for two bets is better when there's lots of calls but that's just hard to predict happening.
Yeah I was very very close to c/r turn.
The raiser just doesn’t have a lot that beats us here unless he has exactly A8s because the rest of the stuff should raise the flop so I am in camp three bet, especially since we have outs if behind.
In real time I called.
flop donk is good. really imbalanced (i assume you would only donk 2p+ here) but nobody's folding anyway.
turn seems like a mandatory 3b with all the callers and what figures to be more than your fair share of equity.
Fold pre
kr flop
kr turn
as played, 3! turn.
i dont know about CR turn. if hes not a total nit he still has lots of unpaired combos that wont bet the turn for you.
This is correct.
Four callers and we close the action BTF, I’m pretty much calling with any two suited cards. Maybe that’s a leak I have.