GGPoker shady dealings: Should we really trust them?
After reading this thread, it's time for us as a community start asking the question:
- 1: Should we trust a Chinese company that offers poker in countries where online poker is strictly prohibited?
- 2: Should we trust a site with many accounts of shady dealings going on? (a simple 2p2 search shows dozens of them)
- 3: Should we trust a company that allow US players to circumvent federal laws and play via VPN by showing just a simple hotel reservation?
- 4: Should we trust a site that allows players to move money with ZERO KYC, by using shady skin/agent schemes for deposits / withdrawals?
They are clearly doing all of this (along with obscene RB deals) to gain market advantage, but how long can it last?
Yes, they have dnegs and Fedor. They have WSOP. But that's not what makes a company reliable. Money buys all that and Full Tilt and AP/UB also had these.
Greedy and naive poker players looking only at EV on large prizepools will ignore alarms like the ones above. The fundamental premise for someone to be a mark is that they want to take advantage.
We might be looking at Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet 2.0 here, guys.
Watch out.
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This weekend they were showing supposedly ''600k players connected''
PS was running 10M MTTs after FTP takeover, while they were the very only game in town. But I don't think even at those days they went above, 500k ?
And those tournaments were not won by fresh accounts from China roflmao
Now I am not saying there are 100s of thousands of superuser bots. Wait you guys, think they fixed it, now
You know that the same old hole cards hack was first reported couple years ago. It not a bug, it a feature
What I am thinking is, it is just another big number which the real owner of this endeavor. Whoever that mysterious person may really be.
Does another line and says.. ''Put.. put, '' 600 000 players '' lol.....''
The math is bad there. That's one thing the math supports. I don't know, it's just bizarre how it's always big spots where **** goes bananas. I know it has replaced pokerstars essentially.
I saw this reddit post of someone winning 3000bb in 30 minutes playing rush cash lol
Slightly impressed
I saw this reddit post of someone winning 3000bb in 30 minutes playing rush cash lol
Slightly impressed
Even with close to 1k players in the pool this looks like chipdumping to win the prop and split the winnings. Probably with few players. Fold 24/7 untill you meet your mate and make a bin. Props to op though for spotting this.
I saw this reddit post of someone winning 3000bb in 30 minutes playing rush cash lol
Slightly impressed
I found this one from January. Seems exactly the same scheme.
When the props started there were spins regs losing on purpose at the 25c games to get a low elo rating and making a prop to grind it up. Obv they crushed them. Would never participate in a prop where I don't know the player.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GGPoker/comment...
Don't know if this qualifies for shady but in the future you might get banned for running a tracker while playing gg. Like probably majority of the mtt players does. This seems like a dumb take trying to push players not playing other sites at the same time. I mean trackers don't interact with gg client at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GGPoker/comment...
Don't know if this qualifies for shady but in the future you might get banned for running a tracker while playing gg. Like probably majority of the mtt players does. This seems like a dumb take trying to push players not playing other sites at the same time. I mean trackers don't interact with gg client at all.
Yeah and the new updated SEP also pretty clearly bans using RNG software while playing as well. Never used one, but I know many streamers and youtubers who do.
I was a winning player for my first 4k games on GGpoker, ever since its been straight down. During this "downswing" I have been offered a name change 6 times in less than 18 months. Are they trying to hide big losing players?
My guess is it’s to help whales elude the bum hunters? Kidna smart actually
Even with close to 1k players in the pool this looks like chipdumping to win the prop and split the winnings. Probably with few players. Fold 24/7 untill you meet your mate and make a bin. Props to op though for spotting this.
pretty sure its some kind of software exploit. there is probably something you can do with a table when you cash out that leaves your funds in limbo. Then you place the bet and reverse what ever you did to create the situation in the first place.
some slot machine exploits work in a similar way.
Do whales even care about being bum hunted ? The ones ive seen just punt money without a care in the world. I have a theory that its mainly mis regs that are outraged by bum hunting. Terrified someone will get those whale bucks before they do
Do whales even care about being bum hunted ? The ones ive seen just punt money without a care in the world. I have a theory that its mainly mis regs that are outraged by bum hunting. Terrified someone will get those whale bucks before they do
Lol @ a bumhunter calling other people misregs. Bumhunters are without fail misregs.
Who said i was bum hunter. Im not i play on acr and its literally not possible. So try again and my question still stands who is it that's so concerned about bum hunting. I see threads all the time talking about how we need to protect the recs/bums as if they're some type of endangered species. Dont kid yourself anti bum hunting has nothing to do with helping the bums its all about protecting a resource. Thank of it this way i saw a youtube video a while back. A guy was hunting deer and a pack wolves came in and scared the deer off. He shoots and kills a wolf.
Even with close to 1k players in the pool this looks like chipdumping to win the prop and split the winnings. Probably with few players. Fold 24/7 untill you meet your mate and make a bin. Props to op though for spotting this.
I think this one from reddit deserves much more interest. Tl:dr: player wins 30 stacks at nl2 in 32min. he had a prop bet for this (make 30 stacks at nl2 withing one day, 145$ possible win). So he made around 205$ or 410$/h, at nl2. Ez.
My gut feeling tells me it's impossible to colude yourself to 30 stacks in a pool with 1000 players in 32 min (!). Thats the time that acc needed to finish the challenge.
This is again beyond ridic. Either it's the most insane chip dumping with probably multiple accounts, how come gg security doesn't detect this automatically.
Did some quick math and I came up with the odds of one meeting one specific player (colluding acc/friend) again at a zoom table (1000 people in pool) beeing roughly 0.5% per table. Even if you assume a table change, really quick clicking the fold button, would only take 2sek. In 32min you would still only be sitting with your "friend" roughly 5 times. So max that could have been won is 5 stacks.
He won 6x that...
If you calc with 5 "friends" (chip dumping accounts) it still would only be 24 times you would meet someone you know.
So if this was chip dumping, it was done with 10 accs or so, lol.
Or what seems also very possible, another software flaw.
Most likely the pool gets flooded with maybe hundreds of bots for these challenges. This or another bug imo.
I mean, you can win 20 stacks @ rush PLO any stakes in a matter of minutes some days, not convinced any amount of buyins at .01/.02c is impossible tbh.
Sure it’s NL, but your also going to have 7 way all ins pre vs 59os A5, QJ, etc.
I mean, you can win 20 stacks @ rush PLO any stakes in a matter of minutes some days, not convinced any amount of buyins at .01/.02c is impossible tbh.
Sure it’s NL, but your also going to have 7 way all ins pre vs 59os A5, QJ, etc.
How do you manage to get 7 way ai when the game runs six handed?
I was being facetious.
They'll turn a blind eye to collusion/bots but god forbid your win rate vs the population is a bit too high for their liking
Based on the comments from the reddit gg it seems that you can use trackers while playing gg. They don't interact with the client.
