Vanessa Alvarez (Mamacita) owes over $17,000 (payments not in progress)

Vanessa Alvarez (Mamacita) owes over $17,000 (payments not in progress)

A huge error in judgement, I made the mistake of using Mamacita (Vanessa Alvarez) as an agent on the Pokerbros app. This arrangement began in the Spring of 2021. I have used many agents and this is the only issue I've run into of being completely worried that my funds are gone.

In November of 2021 I met Vanessa in person at the Wynn/Encore poker room to collect $5000 in cash.

By March 2022 her communication was becoming less reliable, and rakeback for many weeks of play was failing to be deposited. I decided I wanted to cash out and be done with this agent. At the time my balance with her was over $14,000 USD, and a close friend also had $6,000 USD that she wanted to collect. After weeks of not responding, she called me to say that she was the victim of some Bitcoin scammer and promised that we would be paid.

Since then it has been mostly stalling and empty promises, other than the occasional small payment. In 7 months I have managed to receive $3000 in small payments, bring the current balance for me down to just over $11,000 USD. My friend has received nothing.

A reminder to anyone out there using these agent run apps to be very careful who you trust.

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18 October 2022 at 11:37 PM
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by iwasbanned k

Not to pile on you, but she is not losing any sleep over this.
Good luck to you going forward.

I think you missed the point... Hint : she is most likely losing sleep over many issues...


sorry to hear that carnivore, hopefully one day she'll do the right thing and value herself enough to make right


by madlex k

Well, I already stated that we're not going to delete the thread. We don't usually delete threads unless there's a very good reason for it.

Steve Badger waves from the upper deck.


Sorry to hear it man. But honestly was exactly the ending we all expected.

Cheers!!!


by rickroll k

sorry to hear that carnivore, hopefully one day she'll do the right thing and value herself enough to make right

Why would she? This is just a super minor bump in the road for her. Hell, its prob even less, more like fly in car windscreen.

She is still a hot booty and incels&simps will still be lining up to her.


by PokerZil k

Why would she? This is just a super minor bump in the road for her. Hell, its prob even less, more like fly in car windscreen.

She is still a hot booty and incels&simps will still be lining up to her.

looks like you need to learn to value yourself as much as vanessa does


by PokerZil k

Why would she? This is just a super minor bump in the road for her. Hell, its prob even less, more like fly in car windscreen. .

Because if this incident is ever significant of anything - and it usually always is... -, her road is jammed up with not only numerous bumps, but potholes, crevices and a fracking GULF big like the world!!!

by PokerZil k

She is still a hot booty and incels&simps will still be lining up to her.

You do you 😉


by rickroll k

looks like you need to learn to value yourself as much as vanessa does

You went for the old ad hominem when you ran out of arguments.

Nope, Ive never scammed anyone out of single dollar nor 11k.


by PokerZil k

You went for the old ad hominem when you ran out of arguments.

Nope, Ive never scammed anyone out of single dollar nor 11k.

whoosh


by LucidDream k

In the poker world $17k is a lot of money esp these days. Imagine the scenario that you play in a fairly tight knit group and the biggest fish in the game asks you to borrow $17k to stay in action, are you willing to do it if the borrower isn't a hot girl you want to ****? 999/1000 posters in this thread aren't lending the money which means IT'S A LOT OF ****ING MONEY!! And even for that 1 person it's a lot of money they just really want to **** and will make a thread about it on 2p2 later if

Except it wasn’t a loan. Mamacita was essentially an employee of a business and she stole the funds. Many have entrusted ugly dudes with their funds the same way.


by PatPat8 k

Many have entrusted ugly dudes with their funds the same way.

See Cambodian thread, AKA Mike the shill/thief!!!


by Dubnjoy000 k

See Cambodian thread, AKA Mike the shill/thief!!!

And he was known as "good guy" for years...untill he wasnt.

And by all means he got away with it. Just like mamacita. Just like countless others.


by Carnivore k

I've pretty much left this behind now, I've got better things to be bothered with in life, and almost never think about it except to think, "oh yeah I guess one day I'll have to update that thread."

After the initial payments sputtered out (about 30% of the outstanding amount got paid over the course of about a year), nothing happened for a while. Then some guy who was apparently backing her during the WSOP started calling me and claimed he was going to get payments made. Nothing ever happene

You are a much bigger man than I am. If she owed me 11k and was playing in the WSOP I would visit her tables ever day and remind her just so it screwed with her head.


by Dubnjoy000 k

See Cambodian thread, AKA Mike the shill/thief!!!

by PokerZil k

And he was known as "good guy" for years...untill he wasnt.

And by all means he got away with it. Just like mamacita. Just like countless others.

never heard of that situation. could you please link to it?


by donjonnie k

never heard of that situation. could you please link to it?

I guess he means poker_triad.

I actually asked him about app games just before he vanished.

He wanted 1k deposit up front before he would give up any information. This sounded bit too much like 1k donation to his hooker fund so I passed.


by donjonnie k

never heard of that situation. could you please link to it?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/92/tr...

scam took place maybe 1-2 years back

before that the thread was largely his personal blog where he just detailed his whoring and dining and for years he was a "good agent" with regular payouts and meeting his players in person to take them out for dinner and drinks


by Dubnjoy000 k

See Cambodian thread, AKA Mike the shill/thief!!!

The “ugly dude” part checks out too


by PokerZil k

She is still a hot booty and incels&simps will still be lining up to her.

umm no...chick looks like a lot lizard if you ask me



by PatPat8 k

Except it wasn’t a loan. Mamacita was essentially an employee of a business and she stole the funds. Many have entrusted ugly dudes with their funds the same way.

She was an “agent” for an illegal poker operation. She was as much an employee of a business as an inner city crack dealer.


by damian^ k

umm no...chick looks like a lot lizard if you ask me

This is how you tell everyone you are incel without telling.


by PokerZil k

This is how you tell everyone you are incel without telling.

by having an opinion on how someone looks?

Sure, okay buddy...guess i gotta let everyone of my friends, my dad, uncle and even my local priest who's "one of the guys" in on the bad news that we're all incels for playing the rating game.

Ps.
Anyone that uses the word incel is 7 times out of 10 an incel themselves


by damian^ k

by having an opinion on how someone looks?

Sure, okay buddy...guess i gotta let everyone of my friends, my dad, uncle and even my local priest who's "one of the guys" in on the bad news that we're all incels for playing the rating game.

Ps.
Anyone that uses the word incel is 7 times out of 10 an incel themselves

The hurt dog barks now. Wuff wuff.


by damian^ k

umm no...chick looks like a lot lizard if you ask me

I wouldn't touch her with Mason's dick


Thread title needs to be changed to

(Payments not in progress) from (Payments in progress) at the end


by PokerZil k

The hurt dog barks now. Wuff wuff.

dont play victim all of the sudden - it's ungentlemanly like

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